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CIVIL WAR or INDIAN WAR CARTRIDGE BOC & KNAPSACKHi


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Hi

what are your thoughts on these cartridge boxes & knapsack

I was thinking indian war frazier or mckeever box??

what period do you think the pack is

im not sure what type of bullet that is 45-70

thank you for your time and help

Tony

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The prize of the lot is the box frame knapsack. These are much more scarce than the standard M1855 tarred linen "double bag" knapsack that collectors usually find. They used these from the War of 1812 till just before the Civil War. These were always very popular with militia units of the period, with the majority of these dating from the hay-day of the militia period in the United States - 1840 - 1860. Yours is typical of the box frames that we see from the 1850's, and I feel that this is when this piece dates. These were also heavily used in the early days of the Civil War, when thousands of local militia responded to Lincoln's call for 75,000 volunteers to put down the rebellion. An added bonus is that it has been stenciled for the "5th Battery", likely a pre-war militia unit, or quite possibly an early Civil War artillery unit. You will also notice that the lower corner of the pack is stenciled "5/26". This designation likely indicates "5th battery, 26th man".

 

The cartridge boxes are all Indian War period, and the round appears to be a 45/70.

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Hello

thank you again patriot for all the help I really appreciate it

very interesting info on the knapsack

thanks again

Tony

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RustyCanteen

Very nice finds!

 

The round appears to be a standard .45-70 .500 grain rifle cartridge manufactured at Frankford Arsenal in 1887. The case should be brass,copper was used on earlier rounds. The cartridge has an external boxer primer as opposed to the internal Benet primers used on earlier loadings.

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MichaelDecker

The cartridge boxes are definatly Indian Wars, But the Box Frame knapsack is Pre / early Civil war. Great Finds!

Michael

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I believe that the leather knapsack is an 1880s state militia item. I know both NY and PA used a leather pack. PA was very good at marking their items with the NGP. NY lists it's artillery units (as of 1908) the same as on your knapsack and seems to have only marked a unit and soldier number.

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