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#51 patches

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:30 PM

And a printed version. I presume these are very hard to find. I'm not sure if these are perhaps Australian made or what.... but very nice design...



Excellent array of insignia's Mtlh, my compliments, thank's for starting this topic.

If I may add that the above Khaki rates will be a woven version not printed, many U.S. Rank Insignia's were made in this style, while I not saying these rates are U.S. made, we know that these were made in America, your's are perhaps as you suggest, made in Australia, I know there a few Australian made Black on White Rates floating around on display right here in this Ranks and Rates Forum, so it stands to reason that Khaki rates were made too in OZ during WWII. The threads used in these Woven insignia's BTW were Rayon, thus the description for say a White\Silver Army Private First Class rank insignia would be described as Woven Rayon, Rayon Woven, or Woven IN Rayon ( NOT as some call them on occasion, as Woven ON Rayon :lol: )

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

Not that these are "rare" per se, but might be useful.....

WW2 service greens chevrons - PFC thru SgtMaj. These are felt applied to felt construction.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

WW2 Bevo weave style chevrons, green on khaki for the khaki-colored undershirt.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

And the green on red Bevo weave versions.... some of these can be hard to find....

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

Embroidered green on red felt backing. I know there's some who believe these are Civil Air Patrol (CAP) chevrons. However, two of these I've cut off USMC uniforms that were in really bad shape. I'd be interested in hearing others' opinions on these. The only reason I'm skeptical is I've seen a 1stSgt in this pattern where the center diamond is an "open diamond" design like the Army used. The Marines abandoned the "open diamond" after the 1912 patter green/red chevrons (pictured earlier in this thread).

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

And some post-Korea era chevrons without the crossed rifles that came in during the late 1950s... The star came back during this timeframe in the SgtMaj chevrons, except these pre-Vietnam era SgtMaj chevrons only had 3 rockers at the bottom as opposted to the 4-rocker design currently in use.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

The same in service pattern; green on red.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:54 PM

And the dress pattern, gold on red.

(I'm looking for the 3-rocker SgtMaj; have a pair for sale? - PM me!)

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:56 PM

And some female chevrons from the late WW2 to Korea era.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

And some Marine Band chevrons from the Vietnam era. Again, not "rare". The only ones that are uncommon are the Cpl and Sgt.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

And back to the WW2 era rates of USN personnel attached to Marine units.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

If my memory is correct, these are Electrician's Mate..... but I may be wrong.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

I believe these are a metalworker of some kind.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

and I think these are a Carpenter's Mate

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:09 PM

And Machinist's Mate

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

Here's a rate chart...

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:16 PM

And a close-up

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

1912 Master Gunnery Sergeant (MGySgt), Dress Blues, seam-to-seam.... I've never seen one in person. This was from the old Gunny G's forum.... Repros of this pattern have been for sale on ebay by "NCHS" for the last 6 mos. or so....

Once again, misleading information being disseminated. This is the chevron for the rank of Gunnery Sergeant, (no "Master") worn from its date of inception in 1899 until it was changed in 1904. At this time, it lost the tie of three bars and the design was simplified to consist of a bursting bomb superimposed on cossed rifles. In 1922, it was placed in the second pay grade and given two rockers. The chevron shown would never have been produced in the smaller 1912 version.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:27 PM

Embroidered green on red felt backing. I know there's some who believe these are Civil Air Patrol (CAP) chevrons. However, two of these I've cut off USMC uniforms that were in really bad shape. I'd be interested in hearing others' opinions on these. The only reason I'm skeptical is I've seen a 1stSgt in this pattern where the center diamond is an "open diamond" design like the Army used. The Marines abandoned the "open diamond" after the 1912 patter green/red chevrons (pictured earlier in this thread).


What is the width of these chevrons? USMC chevrons during the WW2 period were 3 1/2" while the Army chevrons were 3". That should help clear up whether they were intended for USMC use or the CAP.

Thanks again for such a great addition. Many great chevrons being shown here.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

A current eBay auction...... Mid- war period Gysgt tunic with the dress chevrons...... Asking price of $4k!

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

And another eBay auction with a mid-wars period tunic....... Interesting adaptation of the Trumpet Corporal.......

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

Are the trumpets suppose to face toward the back? I would think forward but MC stripes are not my specialty.Is this a real one?

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

And the rare 2-rocker 1stsgt from the mid-wars 1930s era

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

yes... Page 45 of the 1922 uniform regs dictate the mouthpiece of the trumpet face forward

Here's a link to the regs.... http://archive.org/s...ations_djvu.txt

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

And here's a great reference I found years ago.... It shows illustrated plates of USMC chevrons and qualification badges

http://web.archive.o...mc/uniformE.htm


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