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[usmce4]

I posted a thread "G.I. 12 Ga. Brass Case 00 Buckshot & Box" yesterday and Charlie was good enough to steer me to this thread. Just to try to resurrect this thread I'm going to re-post my stuff here. The box is one which is not listed here anyhow so maybe it will and some info to the thread as well as some new interest.

These are WW II vintage and evidently even back then there were bleeding-hearts types who thought it wasn't nice to shoot at the enemy with shotguns. To shut them up the Government had Winchester put "FOR USE IN HUNTING SMALL GAME" on the box.

 

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[usmce4]

Here are some shells I actually found in my own junkbox. Interesting feature is the UMC round which is not crimped at the mouth but appears waterproofed fairly heavily on the top wad. I'm assuming that being "UMC" rather than "REM-UMC" makes it WW I vintage.

 

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[usmce4]

Lastly, here's a picture of a better grade "For Small Game" I found on the net in somebody's "For Sale" ad

 

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13767 BOX WW2 WINCHESTER 25 ROUNDS 12 GA BRASS CASE 00 BUCK AMMUNITION FOR TRENCH GUNS - Nice clean full box or 25 rounds of the brass cased 00 buck ammunition used with the Trench and Riot guns during WW2 and after. Most of these boxes are well used and have problems with burst seams at corners, etc. This has a smudged area on the top as shown in the photo, otherwise is excellent throughout. The “For use in hunting small game” marking was used briefly while the JAG types argued about the legality of using buckshot in combat, but procurement continued and it was issued regardless of the marking, mixed under the same stock numbers as the ammo without that marking. As nice as box as we have had in several years. Sealed in plastic for display. $450.00 

 

 

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[268th C.A.]

Here's a few more. I'm sure duplicates...

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[268th C.A.]

lots of these...seem to be around

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Here is some paper buckshot that was used prior to the adoption of full brass cased ammo.  There is a reference in the 1945 TM 9-1900 Ammunition General (See post #6) and it is also described in the 1942 version of that Technical Manual.

 

 

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[Charlie Flick]

Here is an example that is new to me.  It is Remington 12 Gauge combined No. 8 Chilled Shot and Tracer.  I have never seen that one before.  The image comes from a 2014 post on the American Rifleman site.

 

 

Regards,

Charlie