ORIGINAL/PRICELESS/VINTAGE 1887-1915 US MARINE CORPS USMC RECRUITING BANNER
This is for the big league true US Marine Corps, pre-WW1,Spanish War or advertisement collector. This is an original and authentic recruiting banner that was used between 1887-1915. Most questions will be answered below, please read all.
Some of you may remember from about 3 years ago I listed this for a mere $150.00 (with a reserve). During this time I was contacted by 2 knowledgeable pre-WW1/Spanish War enthusiast who gave me valuable information and I immediately canceled the auction. I thought it was some kind of homemade banner that was made to commemorate something. Wrong! That information started me on a long quest to gain more information. A few long conversations with experts and a few museum visits later I was lead to the MCRD Museum. So I took it to the US Marine Corps Museum MCRD San Diego CA and to my surprise, this banner is an original and authentic. Of course they could not tell me what it is worth (museum rules) however, to their and my surprise it is differently an authentic recruiting banner. The museum had never actually seen one of these in person, only in pictures. They said it is priceless. I truly believe this piece should belong in a museum however I did not want to donate it for free. When I found out what it was, I felt truly lucky and proud to have a piece of history in my possession.
Quick Q&A of obvious questions:
-Why the writing (CAR4SELL ITEM) over the pictures? To put it simple...scammer and fraud prevention.
-Why the high cost or what's a reasonable value?No one can give an exact value due to none being on the private market. It may be high but no one can say what's the low cost.
-Will I take offers?Yes due to not having an exact value(No low-ball Pawn Star offers)
-How many are known in existence?Unknown, however I am told two are in the Quantico Marine museum in storage.
-Is this a reproduction,copy, fantasy or fake? No
-Is this banner real,authentic and original? Yes
-Can it be authenticated?Yes
-Has it been appraised with exact estimate?No (See below)
-Has it been looked at by professional/museum?Yes (See below)
-Am I willing to get a second authentication or opinion from an reputable expert of your choice?Yes(See below)
-How many of these are still around?I am told the Marine Corps museum in Quantico has 2 in storage and not on display and there are no private collectors that has one.
-Why aren't there any private collector's with one?You have to think back to the late 1800's early 1900's, collecting items were not a hobby and this was not particularly a center piece of anything. Just another office item of the time.
-Do I have an exact date of production,tags,hallmark?No (Banner of this type was used/issued 1887-1915, also notice the two banners on top of eagle which helps date it.
-Why is it blue and not scarlet and gold?Transition to scarlet and gold was established 1914. These were "phased" out with the last ones used in 1915.
Use of item:
These were hung outside of recruiting stations and used indoors by hanging or draping them(see last pic). Every recruiting station had these. You have to remember there were not as many recruiting stations as we have today, electricity wasn't wide spread and even the Model-T wasn't invented. This was a tool of advertisement. I have 4 other pictures showing this type of banner in use (pictures showing banner are not originals and are not included with banner).
To put it simple, it was passed down to me years ago along with some other vintage Marine Corps items. No one knew what it was, so it was put in a bag enclosed in plastic storage bin for years. After it was determined what it was, it was promptly removed and cared for. No other history information available.
Due to this being a rare piece I was told there is no real way to put an exact price on it. Due to there is nothing to compare it too an exact value can not be attained, but I was told it's worth a hellava lot to the right collector,private museum or with proper advertisement at a traditional auction. Value range was given to be between 50K and up. You have to be a true collector to appreciate this piece. If not sold it will be returned to the safe deposit box, so please no Pawn Star low-ball offers I am not in any particular "hurt locker" to sell this piece. I will gladly hear what offers are out there and then determine to sell, place back in storage or try a traditional auction.
Due to not knowing what it was, it wasn't particularly taken care of, it just wasn't moved or exposed to light. I was a little skeptical before I took it to the museum because the condition and colors are in excellent condition for being over 100 years old. The blue color is still vibrate with no fading at all and the white parts has some yellowing stains but all is intact. It has some slight moth holes(not many) and one large rip on the top. This is a double sided banner with both sides the same and in the same condition. Banner measures approx. 59in wide and 88in long.
This was authenticated by the MCRD Marine Corps museum. No authentication paperwork was given (museum rules) but can easily be taken to any reputable authenticator/appraiser/expert. If bought, I will gladly accompany you to any reputable authenticator/expert or if you are in the San Diego area, go to the MCRD Marine Corps museum or if in the Quantico VA area, to the Marine Corps museum there. If going to other than a Marine Corps museum, the authenticator/expert must be reputable.
It is preferred that this item not be shipped via any mail service but hand delivered due to value. I would not feel comfortable packing and mailing a priceless piece as this through the mail system. We can meet at any reputable authenticator/museum/expert to complete the transaction.
If it is absolutely required/preferred to ship via mail, shipping charge will be $30 insured and certified. Please keep in mind no returns and in person transaction is preferred.
-In person-1/2 of total cost will be due by cashiers check 7 days after auction ends and other 1/2 due on delivery (in person) by cashiers check. No Paypal due to fees. No additional cost if buyer arranges to meet in San Diego area to complete transaction, otherwise additional may be assessed if I have to travel outside the area for delivery. California residents will have 8.5% tax included.
-Mail Delivery-If item is to be mailed, full payment is due by cashiers check or eCheck before item is shipped. No personal checks or cash (for buyer and seller) security and tracking purposes.
Edited by teufelhunde.ret, 30 December 2012 - 07:08 AM.