Edited by cap_george, 11 December 2012 - 08:48 AM.
Officer's model 1881 dress helmet
Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:46 AM
Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:11 PM
That staff eagle plate is for an enlisted man. Officers didn’t use this style plate (i.e., no crossed guns, cannons, or swords). Infantry, Artillery, and Cavalry Staff Officers would wear the front plates of their branch on their helmets. For a very limited time, Signal Corps Officers used a plate with crossed torches behind the shield. But, that didn’t last long and they switched to wearing the Chapeau, which was worn by staff and general officers. Those officers did not wear the M1881 Helmet.
What are the buttons on the side of the helmet? If they are crossed guns, that would give you the most likely ability to obtain the missing parts (two piece Infantry Officer plate and a spike, as worn by unmounted officers). Cavalry and Artillery Officer 2 piece plates (the shield with crossed swords/cannons is a separate piece) are much tougher to find and the officer plumes (frizzy yak hair, as opposed to smooth horse hair of enlisted plumes) are even more difficult to find.
Others on the forum are more "into" headgear of this period, so perhaps they can add to (or correct) what I have written.
Edited by KurtA, 11 December 2012 - 02:15 PM.
Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:47 PM
Of course a officers name in the helmet might shed some light on its history.
Terry in Colorado
Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:38 PM
Massachusetts National Guard. As for the eagle plates Yes Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery plates, all other Staff had - Staff Plates (no weapons). - Yes Infantry Field Grade Officers - White plumes, Infantry plate, Company Grade Infantry Officer - Black Plume, Infantry plate, Cavalry Officers Yellow plume Cavalry plate, Light Artillery Red plume Artillery plate, Heavy Artillery Black Plume with Artillery plate. There could be more than Infantry, Cavalry, and Artillery on the Staff, so the staff eagle was used by Officers as well (these were not two piece construction for obvious reasons). Here are two more photos. By the way - I have the complete top plume assembly (enlisted cavalry) coming), already have the black kinky plume, and can get a British made 5/8" chin chain for $40.00. Cheers Captain Albert
Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:28 PM
Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:59 PM
Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:36 AM
As Terry stated, that Staff Plate is a really nice one. Much higher relief than typically seen.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:46 PM
Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:46 PM
Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:43 AM
So, as a late follow up--is the helmet cork? All the M1872s were pressed felt, so I agree with the assessment that it is a M1881 through and through. That being said--a great find!
I have found that many National Guard units enlisted wore a lot of what would seem to be RA trimmings, but I have always seen it with their branch colored suspension. Regardless, a beautiful find. Did you ever put an overlay on it?
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