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#1 Johan Willaert

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 08:32 AM

I've always had a great interest in BM gear and have managed to find most pieces. I've posted this as reference for others when looking at BM items.

This is what I have in BM:

Clothing:

Officer's Garrison Cap
Officer's ETO Jacket
Officer's Garrison Cap
EM ETO Jacket (both types)
EM Wool Trousers
EM Wool Shirt
M1941 Wool Knit Cap (Beanie)
M1937 Trousers Belt

Equipment:

DuffelBag
M1928 Haversack with Pack Carrier
M1936 Musette Bag
M1936 Pistol Belt
M1936 Suspenders
M1923 Cartridge Belt
M1910 Canteen Cover
M1942 First Aid Pouch
.45 Cal Ammo Pouch
M1 Ammo Pouch
TSMG Ammo Pouch
General Purpose Bag
M1936 Carrying Strap
M1938 Wire Cutter Carrier


Brit Made Wool Trousers....
http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmadetrousers0013yg.jpghttp://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmadetrousers0025hy.jpg

Duffel Bag
http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0017pw.jpghttp://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0029vz.jpg


M1941 Wool Knit Cap (Beanie)
http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0033fr.jpghttp://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0041bq.jpg


Officer's Garrison Cap
http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0058vq.jpghttp://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0065rv.jpg

M1938 Wire Cutter Carrier
http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0079kn.jpghttp://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0088km.jpg

#2 Johan Willaert

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 08:33 AM

Glider Qualification Badge
http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0092et.jpghttp://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0104wn.jpg

Parachute Qualification Badge with Chaplain's Cross, Battle Star & Arrowhead
(No idea if they are genuine, but the wing is British Made!)
http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0113jc.jpghttp://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0120gj.jpg

Carbine Ammo Pouch, .45Cal Ammo Pouch, First Aid Pouches
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0133zy.jpg


M1936 Susupenders, TSMG Magazine Case, M1910 Canteen Cover
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0154dn.jpg

M1928 Haversack, Ammunition Carrying Bag, M1936 Musette Bag met Carrying Strap
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0140yn.jpg

M1936 Pistol Belt, M1923 Catridge Belt
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britmade0168ws.jpg

M1910 Mounted Canteen Cover (GI Guide, Pg 79)
met US 1942 Canteen en 1942 Cup

http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc025342ct.jpghttp://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc025353qd.jpg

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 09:02 AM

Johan, excellent display. I like Brit made stuff too and have looked many years for it. I think the only item I have that you have not coved is the hand ax (hatchet) cover.

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#4 glenm

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 09:15 AM

Brit-made Map Case with specific map case strap, both made by C.P. Ltd in 1945.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 10:44 AM

I wonder why for the mapcase they used the US LTD closure, rather than their own P37 push-type button commonly seen on BM First Aid pouches?

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:08 PM

They used the LTD on FA pouches too. I guess it was what they could get at the time or may have varied by maker.

Check the one on the lower left.

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#7 bfryar44

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:36 AM

Here's my Brit Made map case I picked up from a Belgian dealer in 1999 while in Brussels. I've never seen one for sale at a show or on the net. Probably the hardest to find British Made for US item out there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-003S.jpg

With grid.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-002S.jpg

Markings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-004S.jpg

#8 Jeeper704

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:56 AM

Very interesting item, I have never seen it at a military show. And with grid, mostly missing.

#9 bfryar44

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:24 AM

Like Johan, I'm a BM collector also and was lucky enough to pick up many pieces before prices skyrocketed. Many items however can still be picked up a reasonable price.

Here are some photo reference additions.

Canteen Hanger
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-009S.jpg

Packtail
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-008S.jpg

Pick Carrier
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-007S.jpg

Thompson SMG 50rd Drum Carrier (left) and T Handle Shovel Cover (right)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-006S.jpg

Roughout Ankle Boots
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-010S.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Military%20Room%20Collection/MVC-011S.jpg

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 02:52 PM

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A few years back this present British Government closed down the British army pattern rooms. This is where there was the first or premier example of every item ever used by the army in the last couple of hundred years. I was very fortunate to get two items from there #1 being the first example of the British made musette for U.S. forces dated 1943, #2 being the new standard non polish ( Stay-Bright ) wings for the SAS, pattern dated Feb 1964, and marked ' property of the War Office'. The cord holding the wings has a wax and a lead seal on the rear of the card, there is also a small bag to hold the wings.

Due to the fakers ( thats with an ' A' or you could use a ' U' if desired ) I am not showing the sheet for the musette bag, I don't want to start a cottage industry out there with re-production. Johan I will show you this musette and the sheet next time we meet.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:24 PM

I haven't seen anyone put pics of the M1917 Mounted canteen cover on yet so here goes.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 03:35 PM

Like your M1917 BM mounted cover. Think the small loop (frog) is to be threaded through the main strap though. The hanger then "hangs" from the loop created using the small web 'frog'. Try it. It took me a few minutes to figure it out. Check the Militaria magazine No. 82 for a reference on it.

#13 Johan Willaert

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:23 AM

Wool SHirt and 2nd Pattern EM Jacket, photo's of 1st Pattern follow.

http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shirtfb0.jpghttp://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=etojacket2ndpatternfrontue7.jpg

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 07:30 AM

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British made ' Spare Ammunition' bag, unlike the American manufactured ones the British has two dividers sewn inside, which gives it three compartments. This is a very good idea as when the magazines are being used, stops the remaining ones from falling around so much.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 05:06 AM

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Here is an item that I forgot to add earlier and only just thought about it. This is a British Made mail-bag, it was made in Walsall, West Midlands, England, 1943, it also has the broad arrow mark familiar with British army equipment. I don't have the manufacturers name to hand at the moment, I did research it at the time of purchase and visited the firm, the firm started in the 1800 making leather goods for horses, it finally closed it's doors in the 1990's. I think that a lot of the old manufacturing tool equipment they used ended up in the Walsall museum of leathercraft.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 12:46 PM

Just the last week on an italian forum I've seen this pair of leggins with no readable markings. Most members had the idea it could be BM since they show the square strap end fixed with a rivet. Frankly speaking I never heard brits would have made also leggins. It's possible?

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 02:02 PM

Johan, wasnt that peculiar bag lined with camo parachute you had BM too? I believe it was made by Bagcraft?

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 02:51 AM

Another BM item very rarely encountered is the TL13 pliers pouch. This one is a ME.CO 1943.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 03:13 AM

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Note the between wars collar insingnia marked Gaunt, New York, Made in England.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 03:54 AM

Just the last week on an italian forum I've seen this pair of leggins with no readable markings. Most members had the idea it could be BM since they show the square strap end fixed with a rivet. Frankly speaking I never heard brits would have made also leggins. It's possible?


They are probably the 1945 British Jungle leggins similar to the M38 US Leggins.

The British Made? Bagcraft bag is at the bottom of this page:

http://www.thelibera...tifications.htm

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:55 AM

I dont like British Made stuff but this time I couldn't resist to have such a mint sample of British workers fine brains. It's not unusual to see GI web gear with the big US stenciled upside down but none at the factory did a tragedy for it. Things were different in UK, to avoid contestations the worker did overstamp another US correctly oriented.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:59 AM

Markings.
I had notice that this pouch is slightly bigger than the US made ones.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 07:29 AM

There was quite a bit a size variation. All of these are UK made.


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Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:36 AM

Another BM item very rarely encountered is the TL13 pliers pouch. This one is a ME.CO 1943.


Artu, is it attachable to the belt?

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 03:59 AM

I dont know. This item appeared on ebay but I wasn't able to win it. It looks it would have a belt lop rather than a missing 1910 hook.


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