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#1 patches

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:35 PM

Thought that this would be the appropriete place to post this site. A history of Navy Landing Parties or Sailors as Infantry.

http://www.history.n...al_infantry.htm

#2 Bob Hudson

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:01 AM

These are always interesting photos. We've had some cool ones posted on the forum in the past such as this one from http://www.usmilitar...showtopic=86711


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and at http://www.usmilitar...showtopic=26280 (and yes this is Navy)

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:10 AM

I've always loved that look,

Learned about it after watching the Sandpebbles and The Wind and The Lion.

Thanks for the photos!
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:39 AM

Here you go, found this real good one, Officer and Enlisted landing Party Order, one goof though, I always noticed with the web gear ( maybe more of the men in the flim) is that they are wearing the M1942 First Aid Pouch and not the correct M1910 or even M1924 pouch.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:40 AM

Here is a 1912 manual for Naval Landing Forces. It's basic infantry skills and marksmanship. I think the illustrations are pretty neat. The drawings in the manual look just like the 1914 Vera Cruz photo.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:41 AM

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:41 AM

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:42 AM

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

Do Coasties count?
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:05 PM

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It looks like a excellent book to own.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:07 PM

Do Coasties count?
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Sure, I,m Imagining they were trained and followed the same doctrine as the Navy in reguards to Landing Parties.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:15 PM

Very Cool photos!

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:46 AM

Rifelmen First!

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:49 AM

Rifelmen First!


That's a Marine Corps saying.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:51 AM

Would they have any remote kind of eliteness ?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:46 AM

Would they have any remote kind of eliteness ?

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No not really, Boarding Parties or as the later became know as Landing Parties were drawn basicaly from the entire ships company, at any one time Sailor might be assigned this duty, during the Civil War the crews of Warships made alot of large Scale Amphibious Assaults amoung these was at the Second Battle of Fort Fisher. Another well known one was in Korea in 1871, now in both cases Marines did go in, but it was the Sailors who were always more numerous.

Fort Fisher above, Korea 1871 below it.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:14 PM

Two more Landing Party photos. The First is a Bluejacket field Gun Crewman of the USS New York, period, late 19th Century. The Second is one from USS New Jersey 1915, made up as we see here by some of the ships colored crewmen, the uniforms on this second group seem as if they are all Khaki shirts and trousers, like Marine uniforms :think:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:07 PM

That's a Marine Corps saying.

I guess the Navy learned something Afterall! :lol:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

I guess the Navy learned something Afterall! :lol:

Well, actually, considering that in the beginning, there were VERY few Marines involved in landings, and it was the Sailors job, I think it probably went the other way. Some one in the Navy decided that they had spent a lot of money training Sailors to operate ships, and they were much too valuable to waste on landing parties. So, they said, "Hay, we have these Marines standing around looking pretty, eating up the chow and drinking the fresh water, lets send more of them". The Marines respoonded with "But, we guard the Brig, and make sure the nasty Sailors don't infest Officers country"! And Some Smart Navy guy, (most likely a Chief) said "Hay, you're Marines, RIFLEMEN FIRST!" :rolleyes: The Marines thought "WOW, that's a pretty nifty saying, and adopted it as their own. :thumbsup: Then the Marines said, "Well, since we're going to be taking over this landing party thing, we're gonna need more Marines". So they went out and got some more. Then they needed ships to haul them around, and a spiffy song to sing, and History was made. ;)

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:54 PM

Best history of the Corp I ever read~! :twothumbup:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:33 PM

Well, actually, considering that in the beginning, there were VERY few Marines involved in landings, and it was the Sailors job, I think it probably went the other way. Some one in the Navy decided that they had spent a lot of money training Sailors to operate ships, and they were much too valuable to waste on landing parties. So, they said, "Hay, we have these Marines standing around looking pretty, eating up the chow and drinking the fresh water, lets send more of them". The Marines respoonded with "But, we guard the Brig, and make sure the nasty Sailors don't infest Officers country"! And Some Smart Navy guy, (most likely a Chief) said "Hay, you're Marines, RIFLEMEN FIRST!" :rolleyes: The Marines thought "WOW, that's a pretty nifty saying, and adopted it as their own. :thumbsup: Then the Marines said, "Well, since we're going to be taking over this landing party thing, we're gonna need more Marines". So they went out and got some more. Then they needed ships to haul them around, and a spiffy song to sing, and History was made. ;)


Tell it to the Marines, for the Sailors won't believe it !

We all heard the saying, Tell it to the Marines, in it's modern use, it conjures up if there's trouble for America and if and when the Marines find out they,ll kick A/S/S, (don't disagree there) but this term Tell it to the Marines, purportely started as way back in mid 17th Century England as a insult, in that Marines are Landmen and can easily duped and fooled on thing every thing involving seamanship and things that go on at sea, maybe like saying to the Marines that there gargantuan sea monsters out there in the ocean :lol: thus it soon came to mean that Marines in general were stupid on all matters, it carried over more than hundred years or so into our own new Navy.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:25 PM

Here's a link to a list of expeditions formed and landings effected by U.S. Naval Forces, in Central America, Mexico and West Indies, from 1901 to 1 May, 1929.

http://www.history.n...ti_list_exp.htm

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:13 AM

HEY......I like that story too! (Probably more accurate then others.) :lol:

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:13 AM

Here's a link to a list of expeditions formed and landings effected by U.S. Naval Forces, in Central America, Mexico and West Indies, from 1901 to 1 May, 1929.

http://www.history.n...ti_list_exp.htm


Good deal sir,thanks for posting. I was looking to find a site something like this myself to post here, is there one exactly or at least similar that covers the late 18th century-19th century Naval expeditions where amphibous landings were undertaken by sailors?

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:33 AM

Good deal sir,thanks for posting. I was looking to find a site something like this myself to post here, is there one exactly or at least similar that covers the late 18th century-19th century Naval expeditions where amphibous landings were undertaken by sailors?


You're welcome. I haven't found one yet, but if I do, I'll post a link on this thread.


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