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My name is Leonard Lanier. I am an intern at a small state museum in northeastern North Carolina. Part of my internship involves cataloging the militaria items in the museum's collection. Some things have the staff and I stumped, however. For instance, in 1969 the Pasquotank Historical Society gave the museum this helmet. Unfortunately, they did not provide us with any information about the owner or user. I think it's a US Army pickelhaube from the 1890s, but I'm not certain. It's clearly marked "Pettibone Mfg Co., Cincinnati, O" and has a "March 1, 1892" date embossed inside. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. Thank You.

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Here's an additional image of the date inside the liner that I could not fit into the original post.

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Here's an additional image of the date inside the liner that I could not fit into the original post.

 

US Army Dress Helmet, model of 1881 (not a "pickelhaube," it's not a German item). Your images are small, but it looks like a foot officer's helmet for the 1st Infantry Regiment. This type of dress helmet was worn by the Regular Army until about 1902.

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Here's a larger image. I also thought 1st Infantry at first, but was not sure.

The crossed rifles behind the shield mean Infantry.

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Hi Leonard,

Welcome to the forum!

Seems you have gotten the answer to your question already. There is help here of all different kinds.

Please join in.

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Not knowing anything about these helmets, I'll ask: What makes this an officer's helmet vice an enlisted man's?

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Not knowing anything about these helmets, I'll ask: What makes this an officer's helmet vice an enlisted man's?

Its construction in sections rather than a single shell and the fittings with hooks on the sides and back for the metal segmented chinstrap. Without a better image of the front plate I cannot tell for certain if it is an officer's or enlisted version, i.e. a one piece stamping with added number vs. multiple pieces for most officer's plates. A caution- many of these helmets are "put-togethers" from parts.

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A caution- many of these helmets are "put-togethers" from parts.

 

This is very true and I would guess that this one may be as well. The patina on the spike and base differs greatly from the front plate. However, this could also be a result of how it was stored.

 

Here is an example I have (different version of the M1881) which shows how it would have looked with the segmented chinstrap.

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It's definitely an officer's helmet. Enlisted dress helmets were pressed felt, whereas officers' helmets were wool-covered cork. In addition, Pettibone only manufactured the officer model.

 

The front plate appears to be the one-piece enlisted version, which would have been unusual on an otherwise high-quality private-purchase helmet.

 

The spike and spike base are unique to Pettibone helmets, and the rest of the brass hardware doesn't really suggest that the whole thing is a put-together.

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Leonard, it looks like the great bunch of guys here have already covered your question - I am continually amazed by the knowledge base here. I have a quick question for you, what is your museum? I used to work for another small state historic site in Durham and as a fellow Tar Heel I 'm just curious so I can visit next time I'm out that way.

-Lee

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I would associate this more as a Militia or National Guard helmet. Federal enlisted helmets are pressed felt and the models of Federal officers are usually very high grade with colored silk linings and fancy sweatbands. I would say it is national guard.

 

Terry in Colorado

Indian War Collector

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Leonard, it looks like the great bunch of guys here have already covered your question - I am continually amazed by the knowledge base here. I have a quick question for you, what is your museum? I used to work for another small state historic site in Durham and as a fellow Tar Heel I 'm just curious so I can visit next time I'm out that way.

-Lee

 

I work at the Museum of the Albemarle in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. We're a branch museum of the North Carolina Museum of History in Raleigh. Did you work at Bennett Place or Historic Stagville?

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I would associate this more as a Militia or National Guard helmet. Federal enlisted helmets are pressed felt and the models of Federal officers are usually very high grade with colored silk linings and fancy sweatbands. I would say it is national guard.

 

Terry in Colorado

Indian War Collector

 

That's what I thought, too. I know that Elizabeth City, NC had a naval militia outfit in the 1890s. No national guard unit that I know of right now, however. But, why would a naval guard wear an army-style helmet? I'm looking through our photo collection to see if I can find a photograph of them. Also, now that I figured out how to post larger pictures, I'll see if I can some better images for y'all.

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I agree that the eagle appears to be an EM's -- officers were usually 2-piece and gold plated. The hooks on each side and the back were for the leather-backed chain chinstrap as seen on the white helmet posted above. EMs wore a plain black leather chinstrap, so this is definitely an officers'.

 

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