sgtdorango Posted July 5, 2012 Share #1 Posted July 5, 2012 I stumbled on this nice old early dog tag at an antique show today, its the older kind with the fingerprint on the back and old string cord ....named to John C. Fein 12/12/17 513193 and USNR* and the last letter is an R or a P so USNRR or USNRP?.....i have seen USNR (United States Navel Reserve) but wonder what the last R or P could stand for?also is the date his birth date or enlistment date?....i dont know much about these tags and this one is got me scratching my head!....would also appreciate any help on info on John Fein......thanks for any help or info!.....mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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navyman Posted July 5, 2012 Share #6 Posted July 5, 2012 Mike, Nice dog tag! Yeah, 12/12/1917 is his enlistment date. It looks like his birth date is below that. Fein John Clemens -- [service Number] 001503118, [Date of Enlistment] 12/12/1917 Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks Jason!.....aha so its his birthdate 5/3/93...i wonder if i can find out what ship he might have been on and what is the meaning of the P or R after USNR??.....i really dont collect dogtags (im a helmet guy!) and will probably move this along to someone who will appreciate it more than me, but i certainly am intrigued by it now!......thanks!.....mike :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyman Posted July 5, 2012 Share #8 Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks Jason!.....aha so its his birthdate 5/3/93...i wonder if i can find out what ship he might have been on and what is the meaning of the P or R after USNR??.....i really dont collect dogtags (im a helmet guy!) and will probably move this along to someone who will appreciate it more than me, but i certainly am intrigued by it now!......thanks!.....mike :thumbsup: Mike, Your welcome. I just found this on ancestry. Name: John C Fein Father: Clemens Fein Birth: 3 May 1893 - Boston, Massachusetts Vital: 3 May 1893 - Boston, Massachusetts Will see if there anything military related about him listed. Jason I'm not seeing really any thing military related listed on ancestry. The muster rolls only go back to 1938. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCR79 Posted July 5, 2012 Share #9 Posted July 5, 2012 The "P" should be an "F" which stood for US Naval Reserve Force - there was not a "Navy Reserve" at that time Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin B. Posted July 5, 2012 Share #10 Posted July 5, 2012 The "P" should be an "F" which stood for US Naval Reserve Force - there was not a "Navy Reserve" at that time You called it, Bill, it's an "F" and the period makes it look like an "R." Justin B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted July 5, 2012 Share #11 Posted July 5, 2012 Could it also meam U.S. Naval Railway Reserve ? the units that operated the Railways guns in France . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonK Posted July 5, 2012 Share #12 Posted July 5, 2012 Here is his WWI registration card. Unfortunately, not of much help with respect to his service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted July 6, 2012 Here is his WWI registration card. Unfortunately, not of much help with respect to his service. Thanks guys!!........mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted August 15, 2012 Thanks again everybody for their help, i have decided to put these up for sale as they are not my collecting focus , will include a copy of his draft card that members here were nice enough to find for me.....if anyone is interested please let me know.....thanks.....mike :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulirox Posted June 3, 2013 Share #15 Posted June 3, 2013 I found one in my yard after the storms ripped through Oklahoma. Can anyone shed some light on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonK Posted June 3, 2013 Share #16 Posted June 3, 2013 Pretty interesting that you found it after the storm. This would be a WWII US Navy dog tag (USNR - United States Navy Reserve). Name is of course Albert E. Pike Serial # - 356-91-87 (The 9 was imprinted in error and corrected - first I have seen like this) T-2/43-O = Tetanus Shot in February 1943, Blood Type is Type O I was able to find his BIRLS and SSDI file. He enlisted in January 1943 with corroborates with the February Tetanus shot. Looks like he continued service until at least 1954. He passed away in 1996 and is buried in San Augustine, TX....Not sure where you are located, however this is 400 miles from Moore, OK. I imagine a family member of his, or even a collector, lived in OK and had the dog tag. Here's a link to his findagrave memorial: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PIK&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSsr=1&GRid=60206946& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonK Posted June 3, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 3, 2013 I was only able to locate him in two muster rolls, both from 1948. At the time, he was a SH3 (Ship's Serviceman 3rd Class) serving on the USS Sussex. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sussex_(AK-213) Not much else information on Albert or his service, that I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MasonK Posted June 3, 2013 Share #19 Posted June 3, 2013 Oh, and the P after USNR-P, I believe would be his religion; Protestant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Dude Posted January 16, 2017 Share #20 Posted January 16, 2017 This information has helped me decipher my grandfather's USNRF WWI dog tag and explain why his thumb print is on the back. I've attempted to use the information to locate his enrollment papers without success. His name is clearly listed on the tag as ARTHUR GIBSON: enlistment date: 7-29-18 and his DOB is confirmed as 3-31-1899. I believe he was living in New England (Massachusetts, or Rhode Island) but I have not found any on-line records. Were some of the Navel Reserves "undocumented"? I have information from VA BIRLS death files, that have enlistment of 18-Aug 1918 (why is there a dependency?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted January 16, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 16, 2017 Oh, and the P after USNR-P, I believe would be his religion; Protestant Yeah I believe it's Protestant as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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