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Started by Keith , Jun 10 2012 09:53 AM

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#1 Keith

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:53 AM

Slow day at the flea market but did find a few photos. I was looking at this one with the seller lady and I commented that is a strange paint scheme on this one. (I didn't know what it was). She said, yes that is camoflauge. (I believed her). The price was right so I bought it. It is a photo and is 4X6. Researched 5 GRAND when I got home and found it was the 5,000 B-17 made by Boeing and the Boeing employees signed it all over giving it the appearance you see in the image. I really like finding this stuff!
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#2 AustinO

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:21 AM

Wow very cool! Great find!

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 01:43 PM

Keith here is the HISTORY of this wonderful plane. ------ Shared for others on the board.


To boost morale on the home front during the Second World War, aircraft manufacturers celebrated production aircraft milestones. Lockheed, for example, painted the 5,000th P-38 Lightning red and named it "YIPPEE". But Boeing wanted to do something different as it approached the 5,000 B-17 Flying Fortress to be built since the attack on Pearl Harbor when the US entered the war against the Axis. Aircraft number 40-37716, a B-17G, was that aircraft and early on it was marked with a notice on the fuselage that it was the 5,000th Flying Fortress to be built since the US entry into the war. Every worker who played a part in the construction of this particular aircraft was invited to sign the aircraft as it advanced down the production line in Seattle.

It celebrated the efforts of the thousands of workers who emigrated to Seattle to escape the effects of the Great Depression and work on Boeing's massive production facilities. The enthusiasm that workers applied their signatures even surprised the Boeing management as even parts from the subcontractors bound for 40-37716 were even signed, even though they'd be hidden away deep inside the aircraft. Appropriately, the B-17G was named "5 Grand" and before leaving the Renton plant was already being celebrated in newsreels and war bond drives. Instead of towing the B-17G out as had always been the protocol of the day upon completion, the workers themselves pushed 5 Grand out the factory doors to great fanfare.

In May 1944 5 Grand was officially delivered to the US Army Air Forces at Boeing Field and a bottle of champagne was ceremonially broken over the aircraft's nose. The USAAF even made sure that the crew assigned to 5 Grand were made up of locals from the Puget Sound area with Edward C. Unger of Seattle selected as the aircraft commander/pilot. 5 Grand was then flown to Kearney AAF depot in Nebraska for further modifications to make her combat ready. When she left the United States for the Eighth Air Force's bomber bases in Britain, over 35,000 signatures adorned the baremetal finish of 5 Grand. Some thought that the plane should be stripped as the Luftwaffe might make special effort to shoot down 5 Grand, but it was decided the signatures would stay in place. On the trans-Atlantic flight, the crew found the B-17G was about 7 mph slower than a stock B-17G due to the weight of the ink and paint used on the signatures and the surface roughness from some of the more colorful applications! The fuel consumption was higher and stronger-than-forecast winds aloft resulted in one of 5 Grand's engines cutting out on landing in the UK due to fuel starvation.

Assigned to the 333rd Bomber Squadron of the 96th Bomber Group at Snetterton Heath in Norfolk, one of its first local flights before combat missions were flown ended in near disaster when the electrical system failed and 5 Grand made a crash landing after ejecting its ball turret. She was repaired and reassigned to the 388th Bomber Group and would fly 78 missions over the Reich adorned with her signatures with her gunners claiming two Luftwaffe fighters destroyed.

On 14 June 1945 5 Grand returned home to the United States, first landing at Bradley Field in Connecticut before continuing on to Boeing Field in Seattle for refurbishment to go on a war bond tour. While in Seattle, many employees found their signatures still in place. Local officials wanted to preserve 5 Grand as a memorial to the city's home front war effort, but while the Seattle politicians debated the cost, 5 Grand was flown to Lubbock AAF in Texas for further repairs and refurbishment before being flown into storage at Kingman AAF in Arizona to be held in storage while Seattle officials decided how to proceed on the planned memorial incorporating 5 Grand. The US Army Air Forces were willing to donate 5 Grand to Seattle for the memorial planned by the Seattle Historical Society, but on 3 January 1946, Seattle city officials declined the donation of 5 Grand on the grounds that building a memorial with the aircraft represented too costly an endeavor.

Despite the efforts of Boeing employees who had signed 5 Grand, no one in the local government wished to take responsibility and the aircraft, still resplendent with its signatures, was sold off by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to the scrapper where 5 Grand was unceremoniously broken up and molten down, forever lost to history.


Carey



PS, I own an original photo of the 5,000th P-38 YIPPEE

Edited by Got da Penny, 10 June 2012 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 02:21 PM

Thanks Carey for completing the story. keith

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 02:37 PM

phpskKp2uPM.jpg From " Fortress in the sky " Peter Bowers.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:58 AM

The 388th pilot who flew the Five Grand from England back to the States is still alive and well living here in Vermont. PM me if you're interested with talking with him.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

That's the kinda stuff I like.......very cool! :thumbsup:

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:23 AM

What an excellent photo and story. Thanks to all of you.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:50 PM

another pic

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