General Apathy Posted September 11, 2019 Share #15226 Posted September 11, 2019 . Back to Jeep business . . . . . . . . . . . This is a photograph taken at the Willys plant, when looking at it everyone tends to look at the Jeep and features of the Jeep, however take a look at whats around the Jeep. Before that note that this Willys still retains the Willys logo on the rear body but the introduction of the dash-pocket has been made, and still no jerrycan bracket, and no trailer wiring socket. Taking a look at this photo have you ever noticed the old style car chassis mounted underneath the Willys body, the Jeep body is resting on this chassis raising the body to a workable position for the women workers. Look below the left hand side tail-light opening , there is a steel rail bolted across the chassis and the Jeep body resting on this. The old car chassis is then bolted to a flat dolly with wheels running alongside the rail track, if you look to the right of the woman at the front of the photo you can see the car footstep hanger on the chassis. The Ford Jeep must have been mounted to some sort of frame-work or something similar as there are two holes located on the front bumper, and two holes on the rear cross-member either side of the rear bumperettes. I have yet to find any photographs of the Ford production line to support this theory, as there has to be a reason for these four holes which the Willys chassis doesn't have. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 05 2019. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 11, 2019 Share #15227 Posted September 11, 2019 . Back to Jeep business . . . . . . . . . . . This is a photograph taken at the Willys plant, when looking at it everyone tends to look at the Jeep and features of the Jeep, however take a look at whats around the Jeep. Before that note that this Willys still retains the Willys logo on the rear body but the introduction of the dash-pocket has been made, and still no jerrycan bracket, and no trailer wiring socket. Taking a look at this photo have you ever noticed the old style car chassis mounted underneath the Willys body, the Jeep body is resting on this chassis raising the body to a workable position for the women workers. Look below the left hand side tail-light opening , there is a steel rail bolted across the chassis and the Jeep body resting on this. The old car chassis is then bolted to a flat dolly with wheels running alongside the rail track, if you look to the right of the woman at the front of the photo you can see the car footstep hanger on the chassis. The Ford Jeep must have been mounted to some sort of frame-work or something similar as there are two holes located on the front bumper, and two holes on the rear cross-member either side of the rear bumperettes. I have yet to find any photographs of the Ford production line to support this theory, as there has to be a reason for these four holes which the Willys chassis doesn't have. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 05 2019. .fullsizeoutput_2577.jpeg Now please tell me, I'm surely not the only who was (at first) more aware of what is around the Jeep then the actual Jeep itself, am I...………? Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15228 Posted September 12, 2019 Today, september 12th, it is officially 75 years ago that US troops from the 30th Infantry Division liberated Mesch (around 15:00) and Noorbeek (around 17:00) in the most southern parts of the Netherlands. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15229 Posted September 12, 2019 This is a photograph taken at the Willys plant, Picture from the front... same girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15230 Posted September 12, 2019 Now please tell me, I'm surely not the only who was (at first) more aware of what is around the Jeep then the actual Jeep itself, am I...………? Rene . Hi Rene, let me crack your coded message for other readers, ' you were more aware of what was around the Jeep than the Jeep ' WOMEN, you were looking at the WOMEN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 12 2019. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15231 Posted September 12, 2019 Picture from the front... same girls . Hi Johan, I would say that those are now at least three of the rears that are now featured in the photograph . . . . . . . . . Another photo from the same sequence . . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 12 2019. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15232 Posted September 12, 2019 . Back in the day . . . . . . . . . . . Today I received these two images I had not seen before taken approximately twenty-five years ago when a group of us were involved in a American History channel documentary about the B-17 & B-24 Bombers of WWII, and all the variations of uniforms worn by the crews. photo #1, Brian Goodman, Andrew Fletcher, Brad ( I think ), Myself photo #, Myself, Forgotten name, Brian Goodman, Brad ( I think ) Andrew Fletcher has worked in various capacities on a lot of post 1980's war films, One I do recall is Captain Correli's Mandolin and he was a military webbing supervisor. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 12 2019. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15233 Posted September 12, 2019 . Back to Jeep business . . . . . . . . . . . This is a photograph taken at the Willys plant, when looking at it everyone tends to look at the Jeep and features of the Jeep, however take a look at whats around the Jeep. Before that note that this Willys still retains the Willys logo on the rear body but the introduction of the dash-pocket has been made, and still no jerrycan bracket, and no trailer wiring socket. Taking a look at this photo have you ever noticed the old style car chassis mounted underneath the Willys body, the Jeep body is resting on this chassis raising the body to a workable position for the women workers. Look below the left hand side tail-light opening , there is a steel rail bolted across the chassis and the Jeep body resting on this. The old car chassis is then bolted to a flat dolly with wheels running alongside the rail track, if you look to the right of the woman at the front of the photo you can see the car footstep hanger on the chassis. The Ford Jeep must have been mounted to some sort of frame-work or something similar as there are two holes located on the front bumper, and two holes on the rear cross-member either side of the rear bumperettes. I have yet to find any photographs of the Ford production line to support this theory, as there has to be a reason for these four holes which the Willys chassis doesn't have. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 05 2019. .fullsizeoutput_2577.jpeg Great set of photos. I'm used to seeing wartime pictures of battered jeeps, sunk in mud and surrounded by equally battered and mud covered soldiers. So it's great to pay tribute to the ladies who assembled them. Amazing that they are wearing what looks like house dresses, kitchen aprons and fashionable shoes. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted September 12, 2019 Share #15234 Posted September 12, 2019 SAM_7601a.jpg Today, september 12th, it is officially 75 years ago that US troops from the 30th Infantry Division liberated Mesch (around 15:00) and Noorbeek (around 17:00) in the most southern parts of the Netherlands. Rene Wishing the Netherlands whatever the equivalent there is to the French "Vive la Liberte!". Looking forward to more about the Liberation. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15235 Posted September 13, 2019 . Hi Rene, let me crack your coded message for other readers, ' you were more aware of what was around the Jeep than the Jeep ' WOMEN, you were looking at the WOMEN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 12 2019. . Hi Ken, you broke the code indeed.....but on a serious note: it should never be forgotten that all the efforts of these women in all kinds of jobs helped win the war. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15236 Posted September 13, 2019 September 13th and 14th 1944: the first major city to be liberated on Dutch soil was the city of Maastricht. This plaque is one of many that commemorates this feat. It was presented to the city of Maastricht by veterans of the 30th Infantry Division in 1974 when they revisited the city. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15237 Posted September 13, 2019 Back to the Then and Now shots Liberators of the 30th ID welcomed in the area of Maastricht called Wyck. picture: RHCL Beeldbank, Fotocollectie GAM, nr. 2772 Situation today Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15238 Posted September 13, 2019 . Hi Rene, many thanks for all the images you have added and look forward to more as the anniversary proceeds, two friends left here this morning in their Jeeps with their wives heading your way to join in the anniversary celebrations. Ever since I first went to Holland I have always found the Dutch people very welcoming and friendly as in this image taken in 2009 , ( apologies for the quality of the image it has been passed by email several times ). Danke je wel . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 13 2019. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15239 Posted September 13, 2019 . Hi Rene, many thanks for all the images you have added and look forward to more as the anniversary proceeds, two friends left here this morning in their Jeeps with their wives heading your way to join in the anniversary celebrations. Ever since I first went to Holland I have always found the Dutch people very welcoming and friendly as in this image taken in 2009 , ( apologies for the quality of the image it has been passed by email several times ). Danke je wel . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 13 2019. .photo.JPG Thanks Ken, my pleasure and there's more to come. Nice picture! Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15240 Posted September 13, 2019 Another Then and Now on virtually the same spot although this one has a nasty twist. What's pictured in the Then shot in the so called Wehrmachtsheim. It's a sort of 'rest and relax' spot for Wehrmacht members where they could eat and drink. According to the ledger the Germans took good care of themselves. Amongst the drinks served were beer, wine, liqueur and cognac. Daily consumption of beer was around 250 to 300 glasses; wine 3 to 8 bottles. On september the 3rd staff of the Wehrmachtsheim left (they probably saw what was coming). As a nasty souvenir the Germans left a bomb with a time delayed fuse hidden in the piano. That bomb went off after the liberation of Maastricht killing two GI's and wounding three. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15241 Posted September 13, 2019 Before the arrival of the US troops the Germans for the most part succeeded in blowing up the bridges spanning the river Maas. In the next Then shot you can see the destroyed Wilhelmina bridge. This bridge was for the most part build from stone. That part was gone except for some damaged pillars. What you see in the background is the metal section that was also part of the bridge and was build to make it possible for more modern day shipping to pass the bridge. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15242 Posted September 13, 2019 Another bridge in close proximity to the Wilhelmina bridge is the St. Servaasbridge (a.k.a. the old bridge). It's origins date back to the 13th century. The Germans also tried to blow this bridge but only managed to severly damage it. As a result it was possible to make it function again with makeshift repairs later on. The consequence of these out of action bridges was that the US troops (117th IR, 30th ID) could not cross the river Maas and proceed to the city centre. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15243 Posted September 13, 2019 Another Then and Now on virtually the same spot although this one has a nasty twist. What's pictured in the Then shot in the so called Wehrmachtsheim. It's a sort of 'rest and relax' spot for Wehrmacht members where they could eat and drink. According to the ledger the Germans took good care of themselves. Amongst the drinks served were beer, wine, liqueur and cognac. Daily consumption of beer was around 250 to 300 glasses; wine 3 to 8 bottles. On september the 3rd staff of the Wehrmachtsheim left (they probably saw what was coming). As a nasty souvenir the Germans left a bomb with a time delayed fuse hidden in the piano. That bomb went off after the liberation of Maastricht killing two GI's and wounding three. wyckerbrugstraata.jpg SAM_7510 (2)a.jpg Rene Nice T&N's Rene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15244 Posted September 13, 2019 Another bridge in close proximity to the Wilhelmina bridge is the St. Servaasbridge (a.k.a. the old bridge). It's origins date back to the 13th century. The Germans also tried to blow this bridge but only managed to severly damage it. As a result it was possible to make it function again with makeshift repairs later on. The consequence of these out of action bridges was that the US troops (117th IR, 30th ID) could not cross the river Maas and proceed to the city centre. St Servaasbrug.jpg DSC_6369a.jpg Rene The bridge damage in the Then picture looks pretty bad, but I'd almost bet that Ken would fly right over it in his jeep, no problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted September 13, 2019 Share #15245 Posted September 13, 2019 . Back in the day . . . . . . . . . . . Today I received these two images I had not seen before taken approximately twenty-five years ago when a group of us were involved in a American History channel documentary about the B-17 & B-24 Bombers of WWII, and all the variations of uniforms worn by the crews. photo #1, Brian Goodman, Andrew Fletcher, Brad ( I think ), Myself photo #, Myself, Forgotten name, Brian Goodman, Brad ( I think ) Andrew Fletcher has worked in various capacities on a lot of post 1980's war films, One I do recall is Captain Correli's Mandolin and he was a military webbing supervisor. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, September 12 2019. .fullsizeoutput_25d6.jpeg .fullsizeoutput_25d9.jpeg Wow! All kitted up like that, pity there wasn't someplace that needed bombing. Or was getting bombed something done afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted September 14, 2019 Share #15246 Posted September 14, 2019 Hi everyone, just a short impression from Eindhoven today. Market Garden commemoration. A large column of vehicles followed a route through the city more or less the same as XXX corps did in 1944. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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