Dogsbody Posted August 9, 2017 Share #10526 Posted August 9, 2017 Rene, If I am seeing this correctly, it looks like the house in the "now" picture with the really tall roof and solar panels on it is in the "then" picture on the right side. ...Kat Hello Kat, you are absolutely right about the building with the solar panels. Even the row of houses to the left of it is the same as in the now picture. If you look closely at the layout of the windows and the lower left corner you can see it is the same building. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 9, 2017 Share #10527 Posted August 9, 2017 I agree. Be a sight to have all those shermans in your yard Hi Ron, wouldn't that be something! This may sound silly but sometimes you wish there was somekind of time machine that could transport you back to those moments in time. Even if it only was for a few minutes. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10528 Posted August 10, 2017 The next photo shows my favourite parking spot Then boenerstraat.jpg It is virtually impossible to make a Now shot from the same angle. If you imagine this to be 1945, the 'parking spot' would be to your right where now a row of houses is standing. You can, however, recognise the shape of some of the buildings on your left. SAM_2090.jpg Rene Hi Rene, thanks for more shots of Venlo, see the same thing happens there as I see happening here, tourists visit both area's and only see how it currently looks, they are aware that historically battles were fought there but unknowingly walk past the evidence. Last Sunday I met up with Mike in the square at Ste Mere Eglise for coffee, we arrived within seconds of one another and Mike parked his Jeep next to mine. Instantly people crowded around taking photographs some using family members stood next to the Jeeps, others using the church as a background scene. A Canadian guy stepped forward and spoke to us, ex services married to a German lady and living in Germany, as he had his camera in hand I pointed out a couple of spots where remaining bullet strikes could be seen. Other than that he had a shot of the church, the square, the cafe's, people wondering around, basically photo's of any village anywhere, sadly came all that distance and missed what there was left to see. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10529 Posted August 10, 2017 Ken, Great eye to notice the small jeep modifications in a documentary! I have never seen the mud flaps or a civilian steering wheel. I also love the picture of the nurse! Wonderful picture! ...Kat . Hi Kat, thanks for the compliment, times have changed, people know so much more now about subjects and items, ask forum member Johan June in Normandy is a jeep fest with experts examining every Jeep, every part of a Jeep, every nut and bolt, every colour scheme, etc, etc. . Time was thirty years ago an M-1 helmet was an M-1 helmet, now there are two hundred variations to encounter and date progressions of manufacture. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10530 Posted August 10, 2017 I agree. Be a sight to have all those shermans in your yard . Hi Ron, late 1970's I found a working Sherman in a car breakers yard, it was £1,200 pounds, I had the money but lived at my parents town house with insufficient space to store it. Another friend found a Convent that strangely had had an abandoned Sherman in the grounds surrounding the convent since WWII, they wanted to dispose of it as no-one had ever returned to claim it since it broke down on an exercise pre D-Day. Another friend heard rumour of a German tank in a breakers yard in Oxfordshire, they spent weeks locating breakers yards and visiting them until eventually found the correct yard. Storyline was, it was captured by the British army in Normandy 1944 and taken to the UK for evaluation, at wars end the army disposed of it to the breakers yard where it sat until found. It became the first Panther in private UK ownership. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10531 Posted August 10, 2017 . Normandy Victory Museum, Catz, Carentan . . . . . . attached photo featuring a display taken in the new Normandy Victory Museum which opened in May this year. the museum is situated outside of the town of Carentan at Catz on the D974, Carentan to Isigny sur Mer. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10532 Posted August 10, 2017 . Normandy Victory Museum, Catz, Carentan . . . . . . . . Display of American toiletry items . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10533 Posted August 10, 2017 I have about 2 minutes to check in here. Great stuff! All the Then and Nows are the closest we'll get to traveling in time. I have suspected Ken of being a Timelord on occasion. It would explain his uncanny ability to locate those sites. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10534 Posted August 10, 2017 . Hi Ron, late 1970's I found a working Sherman in a car breakers yard, it was £1,200 pounds, I had the money but lived at my parents town house with insufficient space to store it. Another friend found a Convent that strangely had had an abandoned Sherman in the grounds surrounding the convent since WWII, they wanted to dispose of it as no-one had ever returned to claim it since it broke down on an exercise pre D-Day. Another friend heard rumour of a German tank in a breakers yard in Oxfordshire, they spent weeks locating breakers yards and visiting them until eventually found the correct yard. Storyline was, it was captured by the British army in Normandy 1944 and taken to the UK for evaluation, at wars end the army disposed of it to the breakers yard where it sat until found. It became the first Panther in private UK ownership. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . I'm just happy to see a WWII jeep show up in a near-by parking lot! I've probably related this before, but in the late 1980's, I was at a range in Grafenwohr, West Germany when we saw a column of U.S. half-tracks being driven up to range. They belonged to the French Army and were being removed from the inventory. Unfortunately, their version of being decommissioned was to drive them into the impact areas and use them for gunnery practice. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. There used to be a magazine called the U.S. Army Green Book. In it, it gave summaries of the military strengths of other countries and I remember in the 1986 or 1987 edition, the Mexican army still had M-5 tanks in their inventory. I wonder which cartel got them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10535 Posted August 10, 2017 I have about 2 minutes to check in here. Great stuff! All the Then and Nows are the closest we'll get to traveling in time. I have suspected Ken of being a Timelord on occasion. It would explain his uncanny ability to locate those sites. Mikie Even though I don't always post my compliments, I wanted to add my support to Mikie's post. Between Ken's and Dogsbody's Then and Now posts, I feel we are looking into a time portal. Keep up the good work. You two are becoming the William Frassanito of WWII! I also believe that Mikie's assertion that Ken is a Timelord is correct. I'm pretty sure this was taken just outside of Ken's BBQ shack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10536 Posted August 10, 2017 . Photo from a friend in London . . . . . . Hi Kat, thought you might like to see this photo a friend in London just sent me, she spotted it this week walking a street she doesn't normally use. I thought you would like the garden hedge shaped as resting cats . . . . . . However I also looked at the building and assessed that it might well have received bomb damage during WWII, note how roughly the side wall has been re-joined to the front wall all the way down the corner. Also looking at the neighbours older garden wall the difference in the two colours of bricks used to the left and right. There was also an old pre war size street sign on the right front side of the building. I have asked her to investigate the possibility it was bombed if she can. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10537 Posted August 10, 2017 I'm just happy to see a WWII jeep show up in a near-by parking lot! I've probably related this before, but in the late 1980's, I was at a range in Grafenwohr, West Germany when we saw a column of U.S. half-tracks being driven up to range. They belonged to the French Army and were being removed from the inventory. Unfortunately, their version of being decommissioned was to drive them into the impact areas and use them for gunnery practice. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. There used to be a magazine called the U.S. Army Green Book. In it, it gave summaries of the military strengths of other countries and I remember in the 1986 or 1987 edition, the Mexican army still had M-5 tanks in their inventory. I wonder which cartel got them? . Hahahhaha Beast, buddy you and I are connected in less than six people . . . . . . . . . . . . late 1980's I heard the rumour that the French army were restoring a number of half-tracks to return to the US government as per the agreement at the start of the loan. I wrote to Ronald Reagan at the White House requesting that these historical vehicles be saved, and if possible could I have one to add to my collection. I had a return letter from a General attached to the White House stating that I could have one upon proof of being a museum or having charity status. I contacted the group I belonged to as a life member the Military Vehicle Trust a registered UK charity, I received a letter from the committee saying they would look into providing me with a letter backing my application for a half-track. Sadly it took too long to enable the letter and I missed the opportunity to acquire one. I later learnt that they had simply been moved to the gunnery range and blasted apart, I think I did hear that the commanding officer of the range kept one for ceremonial duties . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10538 Posted August 10, 2017 Even though I don't always post my compliments, I wanted to add my support to Mikie's post. Between Ken's and Dogsbody's Then and Now posts, I feel we are looking into a time portal. Keep up the good work. You two are becoming the William Frassanito of WWII! I also believe that Mikie's assertion that Ken is a Timelord is correct. I'm pretty sure this was taken just outside of Ken's BBQ shack. call box.jpg . hahhaaaa Beast, my buddy, we are connected again . . . . . . . . . . I recognise the beach behind where I parked the Tardis, it's Rhossili Beach, Gower Coast, South Wales . . . . . No magic in recognising it I have walked it many times as its the ancestral home of my family, when my American grandmother moved to the UK from Rhode Island this was where she ended up living. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10539 Posted August 10, 2017 I have about 2 minutes to check in here. Great stuff! All the Then and Nows are the closest we'll get to traveling in time. I have suspected Ken of being a Timelord on occasion. It would explain his uncanny ability to locate those sites. Mikie . Hi mikie, I think you should be on holiday having a good time not sneaking in small visits here, still nice to see that you are keeping in touch. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10540 Posted August 10, 2017 Even though I don't always post my compliments, I wanted to add my support to Mikie's post. Between Ken's and Dogsbody's Then and Now posts, I feel we are looking into a time portal. Keep up the good work. You two are becoming the William Frassanito of WWII! I also believe that Mikie's assertion that Ken is a Timelord is correct. I'm pretty sure this was taken just outside of Ken's BBQ shack. call box.jpg Hi Beast, thanks for the compliments. With regard to the tardis: you beat me to it, It was the first thing that sprang to mind with regard to Time Lord Ken. Apparently Ken has also his own magazine Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10541 Posted August 10, 2017 Hi Rene, thanks for more shots of Venlo, see the same thing happens there as I see happening here, tourists visit both area's and only see how it currently looks, they are aware that historically battles were fought there but unknowingly walk past the evidence. Last Sunday I met up with Mike in the square at Ste Mere Eglise for coffee, we arrived within seconds of one another and Mike parked his Jeep next to mine. Instantly people crowded around taking photographs some using family members stood next to the Jeeps, others using the church as a background scene. A Canadian guy stepped forward and spoke to us, ex services married to a German lady and living in Germany, as he had his camera in hand I pointed out a couple of spots where remaining bullet strikes could be seen. Other than that he had a shot of the church, the square, the cafe's, people wondering around, basically photo's of any village anywhere, sadly came all that distance and missed what there was left to see. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Hi Ken, I get what you are saying but I can understand that tourists visiting Venlo aren't always aware of the historic sites because Venlo isn't that famous compared with the Normandy region ( or the Ardennes or the cities Arnhem, Nijmegen and Eindhoven for that matter). And I have to admit that, while I like history, I may have visited places unaware of some of their historical significant places. I agree that it is sad that, while visiting Normandy, there are lots of people that miss some great historical reminders. And most of them won't return for a second visit. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10542 Posted August 10, 2017 I have about 2 minutes to check in here. Great stuff! All the Then and Nows are the closest we'll get to traveling in time. I have suspected Ken of being a Timelord on occasion. It would explain his uncanny ability to locate those sites. Mikie Hello Mikie, good to see that you aren't becoming a stranger . Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 10, 2017 Share #10543 Posted August 10, 2017 . Hi Ron, late 1970's I found a working Sherman in a car breakers yard, it was £1,200 pounds, I had the money but lived at my parents town house with insufficient space to store it. Another friend found a Convent that strangely had had an abandoned Sherman in the grounds surrounding the convent since WWII, they wanted to dispose of it as no-one had ever returned to claim it since it broke down on an exercise pre D-Day. Another friend heard rumour of a German tank in a breakers yard in Oxfordshire, they spent weeks locating breakers yards and visiting them until eventually found the correct yard. Storyline was, it was captured by the British army in Normandy 1944 and taken to the UK for evaluation, at wars end the army disposed of it to the breakers yard where it sat until found. It became the first Panther in private UK ownership. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 10 2017. . Jeez, 1,200 pounds for a Sherman. Ken, can I lend your Tardis for a moment? Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10544 Posted August 12, 2017 Jeez, 1,200 pounds for a Sherman. Ken, can I lend your Tardis for a moment? Rene . Hi Rene, well I just tried the Tardis, sadly its power source was depleted and it only took me back to last week, and a Sherman is £240.000 now . . . . . . . . . . . anyone got a million triple AAA batteries see if I can get back to the 70's. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 12 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10545 Posted August 12, 2017 . Normandy military vehicle day out and picnic . . . . . . Yesterday eighteen of us in eight military vehicles met up for a day out and picnic, the weather was fantastic, beautiful sunny day in Normandy.. We gathered at the village of Le Dezert, and this is a shot of the original wartime village sign above the town hall door. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 12 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10546 Posted August 12, 2017 . Normandy Village of Le Dezert . . . . . . . . Sat outside the town hall in Le Dezert is this captured German cannon, few pieces survive like this, at the end of the war most items were disposed of. Norman D Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 12 2017. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10547 Posted August 12, 2017 . Normandy Village of Le Dezert . . . . . Another shot of the German 75mm anti-tank cannon, it suffered a hit on the armored panel below the barrel which went straight through and caused further damage to the towing frame. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, August 12 2107. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10548 Posted August 12, 2017 Hi everyone, Here are some more Venlo Then and Now photos. Have to admit it is becoming harder to find the Now places because a lot of Then photos provide little reference points. But I wil persevere The following shots didn't prove to be that difficult. This photo shows some more destruction in Venlo. This is the Now shot. Those pesky trees made it difficult to make a comparable photo from the same distance and still show the church. This is the best I could do. The church has been restored after the war and I think they made a good job of it. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted August 12, 2017 Share #10549 Posted August 12, 2017 The next shot is not strictly US but I'll include it anyway Top brass visiting Venlo and Blerick (seen from the west bank of the river Maas, you are looking towards Venlo on the east bank) And this is the same spot today. The white buidling to the right is the so called Nedinsco building where optical instruments (amongst them periscopes for U-boats) were made. Carl Zeis used the company to circumvent the Versailles treaty which didn't allow Germany to manufacture military equipment. As far as I know it never became a target for aerial bombing but during one of the bombing raids on the Maas bridges the buidling was struck by a bomb. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted August 13, 2017 Share #10550 Posted August 13, 2017 Ken here is a recent find I will add to my match box of trinkets.I havent researched it yet but its a nice war time 1942 dated can for an istrument and made in St.Louis may look good in your BBQ shack as a silver ware holder..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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