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Hello,

 

This uniform belonged to a friend of mine who served as a Civilian (State Department) Public Safety Advisor in Ba Xuyen Province. The shirt he is wearing in the second photo is the exact shirt shown below. Sorry to cover up the name tape.

 

Regards,

Jason

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Bonjour Jason,

 

That's a great advisor uniform , not so common to find. Is it a lightweight or heavyweight twill? The "earth flower" pattern (translation of the vietnamese expression) is less famous than other Tiger stripes or ERDL but 've been widely used by SVN policemen involved in Phoenix, their US Advisors, few SEAL's and Khmer Serei guerilla.

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Valery

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Yet again a wonderful item.

 

The "earth flower" pattern (translation of the vietnamese expression)

 

Great information on the term, i have often wondered what the indigenous terminology for the pattern was!

 

 

Patrick.

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"earth flower"(translation of the vietnamese expression)

Where in the HELL did you come up with that definition/translation??????.....pretty much known as NPFF camo.

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Bonjour Spike,

I wrote three years ago in Militaria Magazine an article relative to the SVN Field Police (Missions, organisations and insignias). Starting from nothing, I could discovered a FP veteran association and expected to obtain many infos by them. Unfortunately all their texts and captions were in vietnamese. I received very friendly emails but when questions became more accurate, things were not so easy to remember. Fortunately, I received a very helpful hand from one of my officer, fluent in vientamese who translate for me around fourty pages of SVN articles, book chapters etc! thumbsup.gif For the first time appeared the expression "earth flower" relative to the camo. I discovered in Paris before completed my article two ex-members from this organsiation who confirm me this idiomatic expression!

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Valery

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I forgot to add that this camo is call not really exactly NPFF camo: if it's true that the Canh Sat Da Chien (CSDC) were the first of the police branches to receive this camo, through the war other branches (starting by the police officer academy) were allowed to wear it. Becomming the "normal cops" fatigues, Policemen wearing such camies with other left SSI than the CSDC dragoon could be obeserved in the late stage of the war.

Hope it could help

 

Valery

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Bonjour Valery,

 

do you recall the issue number of the Militaria magazine in question?

 

I would very much like to find a copy.

 

 

Patrick.

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hochiminhtrail

Hi Jason,

 

 

great infos that we got here, thanks that you posted your shirt, very nice that all the insignias are attached sween

to it.

 

for me as a new in the vietnam field it has been the firts time i have seen this shirt in NPFF camo, pants and jackets seem to be common.

 

Alex

 

 

Bonjour Valery,

 

do you recall the issue number of the Militaria magazine in question?

 

I would very much like to find a copy.

Patrick.

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Dear all,

 

Thanks for sharing these interesting information, I read the Militaria magazine from Valery and I strongly recommend it for those who are interested in Vietnam war era camo and in the history of the Field Police force.

 

I think this shirt shown in the picture is made from light weight twill (i would rather say in medium weight if you wat to compare to Tiger Stripe material), this uniform has the same cut as the late war pattern Tiger Stripe ( shirt with 2 flat pockets or box pockets with 2 buttons each, the pants have the US cut with 6 pockets). I ve acquired a set recently that I will try to post pictures ASAP,. there are also several pictures of US navy Seal wearing this camo while leading Phoenix operations...

 

Cheers

 

Bonjour Jason,

 

That's a great advisor uniform , not so common to find. Is it a lightweight or heavyweight twill? The "earth flower" pattern (translation of the vietnamese expression) is less famous than other Tiger stripes or ERDL but 've been widely used by SVN policemen involved in Phoenix, their US Advisors, few SEAL's and Khmer Serei guerilla.

Thanks to share thumbsup.gif

 

Valery

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Bonsoir

Thank you Copran for your kind feedback relative to the CSDC article. There is a lot of things to discover again on this subject. Patrick you can find this article in Militaria N° 236 of march 2005. http://militaria.histoireetcollections.com/

I added a shot of one of the models displaying a NCO of the BD5 in the late months of the war in the close suburbs of Saigon. Badged with all its original insignias (no put together here ;) ),,this policeman was a former SVN special forces qualified US senior parachutist. There is other models but they have no direct connexion with US militaria.

 

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Cheers

 

Valery

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hochiminhtrail

Salut Valery

 

i can make the difference very clearly betweeen the 2 different camo patterns. The colors are totaly different

 

Alex

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Hello,

 

Thanks for posting all the other examples. Nice stuff.

 

Valery, the material is light weight. I also have the pants and a patrol cap. I will post photos when I get a chance. I have this guys photo albums and will post those soon as well.

 

Here is another photo from his albums.

 

Regards,

Jason

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