I have been after one of these hat devices for quite some time and finally had one come my way with what I believe to be a matched set of collars. I am interested in hearing what other collectors have to say as to whether or not these belong together and their possible date. The collars are often dated as early as 1920. I say, this version, although similar in characteristics to the 1920's Meyer Metal variety (and probably patterned after them), was used probably as late as post WW2. They may very well even be the same pattern but of a later construction. These are clutch back, relatively thin, and void of maker marks. In my opinion the construction resembles that of the mid to late 1940's.
The hat device is an anomally. It bears resemblance to the WW1 era enlisted hat emblem in regards to the oversize feet, the anchor appearance, fouling and eagle wings. It differs however in that the wing does not touch the anchor cross guard, the feet are excessively long, ithas no isogonic/rhumb line, and the anchor flukes are oversized with a rounded appearance. The eagle's head is also quite large.
I have another collar set, although in dress, that are carded on a Wolf Brown backing. They are dead stock and have their original WW2 era patented clutch backed frogs on them. They came on the card and from the same source as the service enlisted hat and collar set. Date is up in the air really, but I believe these to be a later version of the Meyer Metal variety from the 1920's, maybe perhaps made by a different firm. What do you all think?
In my opinion, what solidifies that these are a matched set is in the fact that the hat device and collars both have the same odd shaped retaining pins, with a ridge just prior to the tip. I think these are just another odd variation (perhaps short production) of the type that buck the normal "patterns" and dont fit into a typical category in regards to method of construction and attachment and overall appearance.
Please post your variety of this thin stamped emblem if there are any others out there. Screw post maybe? Please keep in mind that these are different than the commonly seen 1920's version (of which I have posted a dress example). The 20's ones are heavy and solid and tended to always be marked by Meyer.
In my opinion late 1930's to 1940's...
Although similiar, I think they should not to be confused with these 1920's to 1930's versions.
Edited by Forum Support, 12 September 2008 - 11:16 AM.