Post your SpanAM through WWI Navy uniforms

[fightn5th]

Here' my Span-Am USMC tunic. The collar has been pierced for discs or EGA emblems. No USMC quartermaster markings but does have a faint 1899-1900 stamp on inside left sleeve lining.

 

 

 

Here's shots of the shoulder boards.

 

 

[ChrisG43]

A picture is worth a thousand words! Thanks Steve!

Beautiful USMC Spanam tunic, condition is beautiful, and a great looking EGA.

Chris...

[Gary Cain]

I have but one one jacket to add to this very nice thread so here it is. It belonged to Commander A.M. Cook and the medal was found in the pocket but I don't know if he was entitled to it. I have some basic research on him buried in boxes at the moment so can't give a detailed summary of his career.

 

Gary

 

 

 

the label

[Dave]

Nice jacket Gary! Do you have his bio? I assume that you know that he was Class of 1893 from USNA? He retired in 1919 right at the end of WW1 and retired to Norfolk, VA.

 

Dave

[Gary Cain]

Hi Dave,

 

I have a cursory history on him but nothing in depth. Do you have any idea what he was doing during the War?

 

 

Cheers

Gary

Nice jacket Gary! Do you have his bio? I assume that you know that he was Class of 1893 from USNA? He retired in 1919 right at the end of WW1 and retired to Norfolk, VA.

 

Dave

[hhbooker2]

Here is a color plate from United States Mavy Uniform Regulations ((1886), hope that is not to early for reserach purposes?

 

Here is another 1886 plate. Sarge Booker

 

I've got actual picture of U.S. Mavy uniforms of the U.S. Civil War if interested in earlier sailor suits? Sarge Booker

 

The 1941 USN uniform regs show this dress white seman's jumper. while it is after 1917, you might still find this image useful? Sarge Booker

[Navy Dan]

Hi Everyone,

I'm a new member and its amazing to see so many Naval collectors!! This is my PRIDE and JOY a WW I Naval Aviators uniform Its named to Kenneth Rose Smith dated 1918 with the riding breeches.I have some info on him but always looking for more.

GREAT FORUM. Thanks Dan

[hhbooker2]

"GREETINGS & SALUTATIONS!" Here is a very old photograph I have of a sailor in what could be between 1918 and 1920? Not sure? Sarge Booker

 

While this is definately United States Coast Guard arounf 1900s or so, same uniform as worn by the U.S. Mavy minus the USCG shield on the lower right sleevfe.

 

1891 uniform regulations for the United States Navy, shows the jumper, trousers and both the flat cap and the watch cap.

[BEAST]

"GREETINGS & SALUTATIONS!" Here is a very old photograph I have of a sailor in what could be between 1918 and 1920? Not sure? Sarge Booker

 

Great image! The overseas chevron is a nice touch!

[sigsaye]

"GREETINGS & SALUTATIONS!" Here is a very old photograph I have of a sailor in what could be between 1918 and 1920? Not sure? Sarge Booker

Do not believe this is US Navy. There are only two stripes of piping on his collar. This was made standard in 1871. Additionally, the insignial on his sleeve is not USN. The Sailor is not wearing an undershirt. These were standard after 1866. I think this may be from some other Navy if not Mercahnt Fleet of some country.

[cwnorma]

sigsaye,

 

That rate looks to me like the US Shipping Board insignia. You are probably right he is most likely a merchant mariner. But I think based on the visual cues; the style of pancake hat, the overseas chevron, the cut of the jumper, I guess American.

 

Chris

 

 

Do not believe this is US Navy. There are only two stripes of piping on his collar. This was made standard in 1871. Additionally, the insignial on his sleeve is not USN. The Sailor is not wearing an undershirt. These were standard after 1866. I think this may be from some other Navy if not Mercahnt Fleet of some country.

[36-tex]

I picked up this jumper last weekend because I thought the insignia was cool. The moths liked the white from the collar and wrist cuffs. But the price was right. The white I was given a few months back.

 

closeup of sleeves.

 

The white

 

Back

[Rattle]

Beautiful naval uniforms here

Keep em coming.

 

Stephan

[Bob Hudson]

I found this is old photo this week and and am trying to figure out if it is indeed a Navy uniform and, if so, what period?

 

I've posted the full photo and some close up details in a thread at: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=25103

 

[US Victory Museum]

Howdy, Ya'll.

 

I sent a copy of this post to our resident naval expert Sigsaye; however,

in the event that he may not check the board frequently, I'll post this

here for the at large members to take a crack at.

 

For reasons I can't seem to fathom, naval uniforms seem to sell undervalued

relative to those of the Army, USMC, and aviation unit peers. I saw this

uniform and tossed out a bid and thus won it at the princely sum of $120.00,

which is far less than what a WWI army uniform in similar condition would

have sold for. I have not yet taken delivery of the uniform, so what you

see in the photos is the extent of what I know about it. (I'll look for lables

when it arrives.)

 

Since the uniform is similar to one in an enclosed period photo, I can guess

that it is WWI era (or shortly thereafter.) PS The photo didn't come with

the uniform, it's just one I found on the Net.

 

What do the patches represent? When was that patch style replaced?

Based upon the partial name, do any of ya'll have access to a database

similar to NARA that can be used to search for sailors?

 

Give me your general impressions. Navy stuff isn't my forté.

 

 

forté... Hmmm I wonder whether this forum recognizes unicode. Now that my

curiosity is going I'm going to have to test.... *** Заград отряды ***

 

See enclosed pics.

 

Thanks!

Msn US Victory Museum

 

Until I take delivery, these are the only photos available at this time.

 

END Posting.

[KASTAUFFER]

That is a great uniform. I collect US Naval Aviation groups and uniforms like that are scarce. It could easily be WWI or early 1920's . It does not have WWI OS Chevrons , but that doesnt mean anything,

 

He was an Aviation Machinist Mate 1st Class. He was NOT a pilot as his name is not listed on the list of pre-WWII Naval Aviators.

 

Kurt

[sigsaye]

That is a great uniform. I collect US Naval Aviation groups and uniforms like that are scarce. It could easily be WWI or early 1920's . It does not have WWI OS Chevrons , but that doesnt mean anything,

 

He was an Aviation Machinist Mate 1st Class. He was NOT a pilot as his name is not listed on the list of pre-WWII Naval Aviators.

 

Kurt

The patch under the rating badge is a badge that Naval Aviation personnel wore prior to the adoption of specific Aviation rating badges. Prior to 1918 Aviation Sailors wore standard crows. This particular Sailor would have worn the three bladed ships propellor. The lower badge (four bladed aircraft propellor) indicated "Aviation". When specific Aviation rating badges were adopted, many Sailors who were serving pripr to that time continued to werw the old Aviation badge to show they had "Been Around". This is common through out the history of the Navy.

 

Steve Hesson

[US Victory Museum]

I have taken delivery of the uniform.

 

There aren't any clothing labels sewn into this uniform.

The owner's last name and first initial is stenciled on

both the inside of the jumper at the bottom-front, and

behind the flap at the back of the neck. The circular

patch is bullion sewn. The eye of the eagle on the other

patch is embroidered with blue thread. The stars on the

flap are 100% embroidered, and are not separate pieces

sewn to the jumper. The uniform is dead mint with the

string ties intact, and without any thread pulls, or moth

nips and tracks. Like all uniforms of the era, it's

quite small.

 

The bad news is that I need to acquire a hat, preferably

a "Naval Aviation," or I need to identify the original

owner and determine which ship he was assigned to to get

a correct hat; nevertheless, the last hat of the correct

style that I saw sell on EGay was a minty looking one for

the USS Birmingham that sold for $275.00 in the last 30

days.

 

Ouch!

 

Anyway, here are a few close-ups of the patches:

 

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LAST PICTURE IN THIS SERIES.

END POST 10/09/2008

[KASTAUFFER]

Here is one I have posted before

 

WWI USN jumper with a fairly scarce rate ( Aviation Carpenters Mate 1st Class ) to:

 

Kircher, George,

797 Maple St., Rochester, N. Y.

Entered the service at Buffalo, N. Y., April 2, 1918, at the age of 24 years, in U.S. Navy.

Served, Naval Training Camp, Charleston, S. C., to May 6, 1918;

Receiving Ship, Pensacola, Fla., to Nov. 11, 1918.

Trained, Charleston, S. C. Landsman Carpenter's Mate, Aviation, 121 days;

Carpenter's Mate, 2d Class, Aviation, 41 days.

Discharged, March 4, 1919.

 

 

 

 

I want to thank member Jeffrey Magut for leading me to this medal on Ebay !

 

It belonged to the same vet as the uniform

 

Kurt

 

 

[carnut63]

Here is one I picked up off of ebay. I am not sure of the patch, but the uniform seems definatley old. Anyone have any ides?

[carnut63]

This is also one of my favorites, it looks to be circa 1920's. Maybe?

 

And the pants belonging to the same person.

 

[sigsaye]

Here is one I picked up off of ebay. I am not sure of the patch, but the uniform seems definatley old. Anyone have any ides?

This looks like it started life as a Navy jumper but has been modified for civilian use. The snaps and Hook and eye closuers in the cuffs are to reduce the cuff for a much smaller wrist. The patch on the sleeve is simply some civilian novilty.

 

Steve Hesson

[thecolonelscache]

I have a few additions to show some officer uniforms. First is an 1880s USN lieutenant's frock coat. He is a line officer as indicated by the star on the sleeve. They wore shoulder straps on these for everyday sue and then could put on the heavt formal epaulettes and wear a fore and aft cap for dress affairs.

 

Next is an Span Am period Paymaster frock. Similar to the LT but note the lapel fold of the coat. This was the first lapel coat for the navy. Also note that the frock has the straps but also colored wool between the bullion rank on the sleeves. This denotes the non-line officer branch. White was paymaster.

 

Next is a pre-WW1 period Navy doctor sack coat. Note the maroon color between the rank stripes....medical.

 

Here is a close up of the doctor's sleeve:

 

Okay, next is a WW1 era line officer. He is a Lt. Commander.

 

And a lieutenant's full dress uniform of the same period.

[navyman]

Nce uniform everybody!!!!!

 

I have a few, can only get to a couple for now.

 

This is a ww1 navy petty officer uniform. I have his hat also which has armed guard on it. The uniform has a 3rd class signalman rating and has the ww1 oversea's service stripe.

 

 

 

 

Jason

 

The insignia on uniform

 

 

 

Jason

[navyman]

Here a ww1 jumper with the insignia of electrician (radio) noted by the radio distinguishing mark. Also ww1 oversea's stripe.

 

 

 

Jason