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#26 MikeK

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 05:02 PM

Angus & Coote



Probably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 05:32 AM

What specifically bothers you? The "Angus & Coote" debate has been a big topic in the past. Dave


Probably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 06:16 AM

What specifically bothers you? The "Angus & Coote" debate has been a big topic in the past. Dave
Probably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings.

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Mike



There is a characteristic flaw (at least in the pilot wings) that can help differentiate between the old and new Angus & Coote wings. Here is a link to an interesting conversation about the A&C service pilot wing with a repop and a vintage wing side by side. The conversation gets a bit ugly towards the end, but I think the consensus is clear. http://www.usmilitar...d...;hl=a&C

Patrick

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 06:25 AM

There is a characteristic flaw (at least in the pilot wings) that can help differentiate between the old and new Angus & Coote wings. I can't recall if that also extends to the L, G, and S wings by this company, but I think it may.

Patrick


What is this characteristic flaw?

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 06:36 AM

What is this characteristic flaw?

Dave


I think if you check out the thread I linked to, you can find it. Its on the back of the wing.

Sadly, I know for sure its not found in the A&C air crew wings and I don't know about any of the other ratings. However, it does seem to be characteristic for the pilot series.

I am hesitant to broadcast what that difference is as I assume the next wave of fakes will have corrected that problem to some extent.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 06:49 AM

I think if you check out the thread I linked to, you can find it. Its on the back of the wing.

Sadly, I know for sure its not found in the A&C air crew wings and I don't know about any of the other ratings. However, it does seem to be characteristic for the pilot series.

I am hesitant to broadcast what that difference is as I assume the next wave of fakes will have corrected that problem to some extent.

Patrick



Understood ~ I will review that thread again, as I do not recall reading that information myself - always good to cover all the bases. This particular wing checked out in all the ways I am familiar with in determining a period original Coote vs. the noted repros. It checked out in size, weight, pin, hozzle, hallmark, and (honest) age wear, but I'll take another look. The Coote repros I have run into have been quickly detectable (for me) and have a few differences from this particular piece. Thanks for your comments ~ Dave

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:52 AM

Looking at the Pasquale Flight Nurse (not), I checked out the link from John Cooper to the *************** Gallery. I was dismayed to see they make a repro of the Juarez Liaison. I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get the wing that I have long before the internet. Anyway, Iím posting larger pics for better detail. Jim

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:53 AM

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#34 S McKibben

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:47 PM

Heres Mine

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

Thanks for posting yet another example I think we have a great selection of makers that anyone in need of a reference would be hard pressed to find any other place with the exception of Bob's site.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:32 AM

My Wings AE CO. UTICA NY. Sterling
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:01 PM

NIce AECo! It looks like the posted have been removed at some point but I am not sure what the other two parts are?

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:19 AM

They were on the posts to attach to the uniform but broke off. I've never seen this type before.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 09:05 PM

Did the scre on..? Odd since it would have not be very comfortable.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 09:31 AM

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 01:18 AM

Bracelet made with shirt size wing...

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:23 AM

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Hello Hardheaded,

 

I believe the Meyer style Liaison Pilot wing you posted above is a more recent Meyer restrike. Your illustration is missing a number of details which I would expect to see with a WWII era Meyer made badge:

 

1. The "STERLING" mark is too large. Meyer did use a variety of STERLING marks over the years, but with their original Liaison, Glider & Service Pilot badges, they used a much smaller stamp. 

 

2. It doesn't appear your illustration has a cam-stop style pin on the reverse to prevent it from swinging open more than 45 degrees or so.    

 

3.  I don't see the two small raised "speed-bump" protrusions on the reverse which Meyer included to help mark where the pin and catch should be applied. (I've not seen a Meyer restrike which included these small but distinctive marks.)

 

The various waves of Meyer restrikes and repros infiltrating our hobby over the past thirty years has soured many a collector. (I have a couple of these stinkers tucked away as well.) But also know there are still beautiful authentic Meyer examples out there waiting to be sought and found. 

 

 

 

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:34 AM

Here's a couple of close-up images of an authentic WWII era Meyer-made Liaison Pilot.  Note the size of the "STERLING" mark; the pin-cam block; and the two speed-bump looking protrusions just inside where the pin and catch are attached to the wing itself.  

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 05:31 PM

Here's a couple of close-up images of an authentic WWII era Meyer-made Liaison Pilot.  Note the size of the "STERLING" mark; the pin-cam block; and the two speed-bump looking protrusions just inside where the pin and catch are attached to the wing itself.  

 

Thank You Very Much! rustywings.  I really appreciate the lesson learned!!!

 

I'll be taking these back as they are guaranteed WW2. Fortunately I have a no hassel return :) 

 

HH
 




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