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#1 williamsmilitaryrelics

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:09 PM

Guys,
here is some pictures of the USMC Officer Chinese made EGA.
The Chinese character are hard to see, left side.
Will

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:11 PM

well...not bad...(the close up)...

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:11 PM

See the Chinese characters.. HA HA..awesome camera! love it!

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Edited by williamsmilitaryrelics, 06 September 2011 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:14 PM

more pics

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Edited by teufelhunde.ret, 09 September 2011 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 06 September 2011 - 05:41 PM

William,
The EGA is a crude cast copy from what most refer to as an officer P1914. I am not saying that it is not old, just that it is copied from a known WW1 era emblem. It appears that the chinese symbols are scratched in. Another forum member has some original china made officer collars with "chop" marks. I dont think his are as crude. I have seen much better constructed Chinese made insignia. Can you comment on how the chain is attached?
Thanks,
Mike

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:31 AM

Mike,
Yep, That's what I thought, A period theater made cast copy made from an original, the easiest way to reproduce something quickly while overseas.
The metal is non- magnetic and the rope is wrap around and welded at the end on the back tip of the anchor.
The Chinese character could be the name of the guy who made it...like Chong kai or Ping pong bing or something... lol,
by the crude workmanship, it most likely have been made by a small steel workshop then a pro jeweler, still a neat piece.
Is the original pattern from Gemsco?, I couldn't find anything to match from my "poor" EGA"s ref bookshelf... the closest I found was a pattern made by Jr Gaunt.
Thanks
Will

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:39 AM

Will, I've stared at this pic's until I started going cross-eyed. :pinch: Is this the Chinese characters you refer to? Can you post a better / closer for identification please?

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:34 PM

Mike,
Yep, That's what I thought, A period theater made cast copy made from an original, the easiest way to reproduce something quickly while overseas.

William,
I am not so thoroughly convinced that this was "period theater made". The marks are really no indication of being original thus far. They are scratched in, which is not common on any EGA, and the marks are very difficult to see/makeout with the photos posted.

Most China made stuff I have seen looks to be of much better quality. This is supposed to be a Marine officer piece. It would be very disconcerting for me to think an officer of the China Legation would wear or even want a piece this crude. Marines of Peking were some of the tightest, most detailed oriented Marines of the era. This stemmed from the fact that they didnt have much to do. Their uniforms and gear wear flawless and their parades were over the top.

S/F,
Mike

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 01:40 PM

William,
I am not so thoroughly convinced that this was "period theater made". The marks are really no indication of being original thus far. They are scratched in, which is not common on any EGA, and the marks are very difficult to see/makeout with the photos posted.

Most China made stuff I have seen looks to be of much better quality. This is supposed to be a Marine officer piece. It would be very disconcerting for me to think an officer of the China Legation would wear or even want a piece this crude. Marines of Peking were some of the tightest, most detailed oriented Marines of the era. This stemmed from the fact that they didnt have much to do. Their uniforms and gear wear flawless and their parades were over the top.

S/F,
Mike



......what he said! :thumbsup: Semper Fi......Bobgee

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 06:51 AM

Will, any more pictures forthcoming?

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 09:21 AM

See the Chinese characters.. HA HA..awesome camera! love it!

I don't see anything that resembles Chinese. All I see is casting marks and a bunch of random lines.

If it was Chinese made, they would use a stamp, or a commonly called a chop, or they would have used a tool to stamp each individual strokes in each character. I don't think I have recalled any scratches.

Edited by hc8604, 11 September 2011 - 09:30 AM.


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