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#1 Big Larry

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 11:48 AM

I know all you guys like Sniper Rifles, so here is the last one from my collection. (1954), Winchester M70, 30-06, medium weight bbl. sporting a 1955 vintage Lyman STS marked for the US Air Force. Rifle is papered from, Gen. Van Orden, Evaluators LTD. as being sold to the US Army at the 9-3- 1954 National Matches. It is US marked, but some MORON thought it best to grind the US marking off. You can still see it, however it is near gone. The rifle may have seen duty in Viet Nam according to Mr. Peter Senich the author of many fine Sniper books. It does appear in the last one,"The one round war". A gift from a friend, it will remain in my safe although I do not collect these anymore.
No, I have yet to fire it. Big Larry


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#2 kjones5452

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 11:51 AM

Nice. Something not seen everyday.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 12:00 PM

Very Nice looking Sniper Rifle you sure have got there
i also like the Sniper Scope attached to the Rifle looks amazing :thumbsup:

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 12:20 PM

Blimey, that's one good looking stick!

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#5 Charlie Flick

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 07:25 AM

Another interesting and beautiful piece, Larry.

In case you have not seen it there was a good article on the military Model 70 Winchesters written by Bruce Canfield. It was published in the April, 2011 issue of the American Rifleman.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:08 AM

Mr. Canfield has long been a friend of mine. Especially when I was collecting US Shotguns. I think I read that article, but I have generally lost interest in most of the US Martial Arms. I have pretty much gotten out of it. I have a few nice pieces leftover that I just cannot seem to part with. Thanks, Big Larry

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:23 AM

From the estate of a career Marine ordnance man I have picked up a packet that Gen Van Orden's Evaluators Ltd. included with their M70 sniper rifles supplied to the Marine Corps.

This packet is important because the envelope includes references to apparent contract dates in 1955 and it has typed documents on use of the rifles and Lyman scopes. The printing on the envelope also includes some nice details on the converted Winchester Model 70's.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:27 AM

These are carbon copies so I had to manipulate the images to make them more readable:

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

These scope and ammunition handbooks were in the packet:

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:30 AM

This is a wallet-sized card:

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#11 Bob Hudson

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:35 AM

The Marines apparently acquired these as target rifles and the packet covers mentions competition, but one of the other docs does refer to a sniper rifle.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:13 AM

Very interesting stuff, FS. Thanks for posting it for all of us to enjoy.

Regards,
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#13 Bob Hudson

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:51 AM

Very interesting stuff, FS. Thanks for posting it for all of us to enjoy.

Regards,
Charlie


I figure this one really does have to a lone survivor. I took it with me to the big gun show in Costa Mesa this weekend, hoping to find a Model 70 conversion owner who just couldn't live without it, but the closest I came was a dealer who owned the 308 version.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:37 PM

Those are just gorgeous sniper rifles, truly a centerpiece to any collection and of unquestioned rarity...

#15 shawnmt6601

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:23 AM

the van orden sniper rifles  made up and sent through evaluators LTD did NOT got to war.

 

the guns Van Orden had made up to similiar scpes for the USMC rifle team, because of NRA weight rules, while he was still in the USMC  Did  got ot VN.

 

there is a lot of debate over it. but this seems to be agreed on currently.   there is a lot of confusion out there over it and some books makes it sound like the Evaluators LTD guns went to war, but they did not




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