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#1 neilhg

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:05 PM

got thease from my great uncle thease belonged to my great great uncle who was a Maj. in the lafayette escadrille in wwi his name was raymond "king" kelly
after the war he flew airshows and was crippled after he crashed he died in his 50's i belive not kids or wife. also not pictured is a american legion beret that reads american legion aviation post chicago illinos also somewhere we have his aviation helmet and goggles

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:07 PM

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:13 PM

his aviators leather neck






his heather suspenders and belt




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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:15 PM

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its not for sale but does anyone have any idea on what this is worth?

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:39 PM

That's a nice family heirloom.
Have you started research on it yet?

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:47 PM

its not for sale but does anyone have any idea on what this is worth?


That trunk appears to be from his time with the "Aviation Service" as the US Army flight branch was known then.

To determine value you first need documentation to establish that he was in the Lafayette Escadrille. There is a roster of members who survived the war,: I did not see his name on it, but I have trouble scanning small print.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 06:21 PM

its been hard toresearch theres some celeberty with the same name

as for the list i dident see his name but i am certain he was in it is it possible they missed him?

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:02 PM

What a great grouping of family history artifacts you have there. I really love the look of the trunk! Thanks for sharing...

JD

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:09 PM

as for the list i dident see his name but i am certain he was in it is it possible they missed him?



Could be they missed him, but family stories can also get diverted along the way so it would be worth doing the research to pin down his WWI service.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:38 PM

Could be they missed him, but family stories can also get diverted along the way so it would be worth doing the research to pin down his WWI service.

alright thank you


thats funny how you said they can get diverted that side of the family was quite humble i had a great uncle in the oss in wwii who did two solo combat jums in sicily and italy and all he told us was he was a paratroper.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:56 PM

alright thank you
thats funny how you said they can get diverted that side of the family was quite humble i had a great uncle in the oss in wwii who did two solo combat jums in sicily and italy and all he told us was he was a paratroper.


What happens is that people add innocent embellishments over the decades. For instance, someone may have been told that an ancestor flew in France in WWI. Well, they hear about the famous unit of Americans flying for the French and associate that with their ancestor. So even if this is never going to be sold, do his memory a favor and track down as much written info as you can about his service.

Now remember too, there was the Lafayette Escadrille Squadron and the larger Lafayette Flying Corps and they are often confused.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 08:13 PM

What happens is that people add innocent embellishments over the decades. For instance, someone may have been told that an ancestor flew in France in WWI. Well, they hear about the famous unit of Americans flying for the French and associate that with their ancestor. So even if this is never going to be sold, do his memory a favor and track down as much written info as you can about his service.

Now remember too, there was the Lafayette Escadrille Squadron and the larger Lafayette Flying Corps and they are often confused.




do you know where i can get info on the Lafayette Flying Corps?

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 08:18 PM

do you know where i can get info on the Lafayette Flying Corps?


A google search should turn up quite a bit: this may have been one of the most researched units of WWI.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 10:00 PM

thank you all for your comments

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:32 AM

Now that is an awesome WWI Family Grouping. 

 

I second doing the research to get everything down.  A year ago I started digging into a family story about my Grandfather's Uncle who was supposedly in the Waffen SS during WWII (Grandpa's Dad served in German Army in WWI and immigrated to the US in 1922).  After the research, I found that it was not the Uncle (who did serve in the 22d Luftlande Division), but it was my Great Grandmother's (Grandpa's mother) sister's son who was still in Germany who was the WSS guy.  I just happened to be given the Funeral Card and photos of him.

 

So I share stating the research is fun and will uncover some family mysteries.




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