Entrenching / Intrenching Tools & T Handle Shovels
Posted 03 January 2007 - 01:10 PM
Top AMES 1943
Middle AF&H CO 1943 (American Fork & Hoe)
bottom WOOD 1943
I know of no other makers.
Posted 04 January 2007 - 07:21 AM
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 09:59 AM
I'll attach pics ASAP
Posted 04 January 2007 - 10:13 AM
Upper right cover: Most likely USMC. Manufacturing is consistent with USMC covers. thin wire steel hooks. Don't know what the markings refer to.
Lower cover: 100% certain of this one. Has the web tape straps which is how the Phila Depot did it early WW2. Also has the thin wire steel hooks.
Posted 04 January 2007 - 10:58 AM
Posted 05 January 2007 - 07:20 AM
Posted 05 January 2007 - 08:58 AM
I personally think the 3th option is the most accurate, as there is no proof either the M1908 pattern or a British made variant even ever existed. Due to the fragile construction of this example it sounds very plausible to me the design was soon altered in something more sturdy. I am keen to hear if someone else has the same model shovel, or any confirmation or other identification of this shovel. The blade has the same size as a standard M1910 head; it fits nicely in a 1942 dated carrier.
First, some overall pics and a detail of the construction:
Second, a close-up of the only marking:
Posted 05 January 2007 - 09:01 AM
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Posted 04 February 2007 - 01:59 AM
This part is to member ' earlymb', I think you certainly have a M-1910 pattern shovel , and definatly no later than 1913 as the plans I am showing are dated 1913, and these show the regular recognised metalwork holding the shaft from both sides. I have a shovel than may be slightly earlier than yours in that the metalwork coming away from the blade up the shaft is only on the front, it does not wrap around the rear as yours does. so I would think that yours is an improvement on mine, but then the improvement on yours becomes the standard.
I am sorry mine is packed away and not available to display and I can only show a photo of a photo, it can be seen that the two rivits have split the wood due to no metal support there.
Posted 05 February 2007 - 06:47 AM
Hello Marine-Kabar, regarding your post #10 on this loop, you show 1910 covers that you mention as Marine with which I agree. The one you show has number 76 on the rear and you wonder what it relates to, well I have one marked 74. If these covers were consecutively numbered then our two covers started life next to one another at some stage. So do any other of our forum members have number 75 ? Presently I think our two covers reside some three thousand miles or so apart, so I copied your photo and shot mine sat on the tailgate of my red pick-up as you have done with yours, just so they can both feel at home.
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Edited by m1carbine44, 07 November 2007 - 08:19 PM.
Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:20 PM
Thank you all for checking for me
Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:01 AM
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