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Started by M24 Chaffee , Feb 11 2011 08:31 PM

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#1 M24 Chaffee

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:31 PM

Hello All,

I bought this M-1911 a few years ago to display with a WWII holster. It's thought to be a pistol made in Japan during the 1950's. Possibly for use during military parades etc. I'd be interested if anyone can tell me anything more about it.

Thanks and regards,
Frank

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#2 M24 Chaffee

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:33 PM

more photos;

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 03:49 AM

What does the top of the magazine look like and does the slide function? With the spring visible in the hole in the side of the magazine, that thing is designed to move something. Also, a dummy gun is usually a injection moulded plastic gun, that gun looks metal. If the slide works and the magazine works, and the trigger pulls and the chamber isn't filled, what I would venture to guess you have is a blank firing pistol.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:05 AM

What you have is a 1970s replica of the Colt .45 Commando pistol made by the Japanese company.

This manufacturer used to market a huge range of very realistic firearms from vintage revolvers right through to modern semi-automatics and submachine guns.

I have several M1911A1 as holster fillers and recall them making M1928TSMG, MP40 and other nice things...

Somewhere I have one of their catalogs laying around; will try to find it and post a scan...

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#5 El Bibliotecario

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:10 AM

I believe the piece is a replica of a Colt COMMANDER. I wouldn't be such a nitpick, except Colt made two revolvers called Commandos.

#6 Johan Willaert

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:38 AM

Yes, Commander, that's it!

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:46 AM

Here's a reference to the M1928TSMG from the same manufacturer...

http://www.gunbroker...?Item=215557300

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:12 AM

Thanks for the comments and info! Chris, I don't think you're a smart-rump at all. I wasn't sure what to call this gun. I thought it could be a Commander style. I appreciate the link. I'm including a few more photos. It is made of metal but it cannot fire blanks. Everything else functions. A friend called this a non-gun? I guess replica would be a better term.

Thanks to all,
Frank

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:12 AM

One more photo;

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:21 AM

Look in the chamber. There might be some center stick in the middle of it...

With these guns you could buy 45Cal repro rounds that had were one piece cast and had a hollow tip, so you could actually feed and eject rounds with these...

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:22 AM

I always wanted one of those but the ads usually said no sales to California except for theatrical use

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:23 AM

Exactly!! Replica Models Inc....

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 06:08 PM

I remember these "replica guns". "Fooling the experts" was not necessarily a good idea when going through the airport or being pulled over by the police.

There used to be a militairia dealer out of Dover, DE who used to drive around with an MP-38 German machine pistol replica in the gun rack in the back of his pick up truck. Of course, he displayed it with the magazine in it. More than once he got pulled over by both local and State Police, who were less than amused when they figured out it was a non-gun.

I think these have faded away with the advent of super realistic Air Soft weapons.

As you can see by the upper portion of your magazine, the metal used for these replicas was not weapons grade steel. They could be broken if you were not careful handling them.

Now that I think of it, I think one of my fellow officers back in the 1970's owned one of these, and used it for parade purposes. He did not want to be bothered checking out his real weapon from the arms room, and also did not want the grief that came with having a weapon stolen or lost. (It was a big issue back then.)

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

I think these have faded away with the advent of super realistic Air Soft weapons.


Nope, not dead yet....they are still around: http://www.collector.../ep5sf/index.ep

Replica Models/Collectors Armoury was a fixture in Alexandria, VA for decades. Now they are in Lorton, but still in business.


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