teufelhunde.ret Posted February 20, 2011 Share #26 Posted February 20, 2011 MOTTRAM, CHARLES F RDMC US MARINE CORPS WORLD WAR II DATE OF BIRTH: 02/11/1909 DATE OF DEATH: 01/03/1988 BURIED AT: SECTION 5 SITE 2560 Here is where? Anybody? Kurt Barickman Kurt, I went off the info you posted here. Ancestry did provide this and date of entry into the Corps. He did spend most of his life (the one above) in the Riverside area. The only other Mottram in the muster rolls is "Francis R." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjerickson Posted February 21, 2011 Share #27 Posted February 21, 2011 Kurt, I went off the info you posted here. Ancestry did provide this and date of entry into the Corps. He did spend most of his life (the one above) in the Riverside area. The only other Mottram in the muster rolls is "Francis R." RDMC??? could letters been trasposed from MCRD. Marine Corps Recruit Depot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted February 21, 2011 Share #28 Posted February 21, 2011 RDMC??? could letters been trasposed from MCRD. Marine Corps Recruit Depot? ... and that is possible too. :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Gunner USMC Posted March 26, 2012 Share #29 Posted March 26, 2012 If you are right, it is pretty sad that his family didn't know the difference on his govt. tombstone. Thanks for all the input, Kurt Barickman Just came cross this and I have some insight on the subject. My grandfather was a marine staff sergeant and the head cook at kodiak NAS during WWII. On all of his paperwork including his discharge from the marine corps he is listed as a Chief Cook, a CK 1/c etc. Depending on his rank at the time. I would suggest that this marine in question may have served along side the navy at some point during the war or was discharged from a naval base and they deemed his equivalent specialty rating more appropriate than his marine corps rank. I've also seen marine buglers listed on records in a navy rate structure rather than with their marine corps rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLeo Posted March 26, 2012 Share #30 Posted March 26, 2012 I saw this uniform and was watching it too. Definitely curious about the RDMC mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin B. Posted March 27, 2012 Share #31 Posted March 27, 2012 Just came cross this and I have some insight on the subject. My grandfather was a marine staff sergeant and the head cook at kodiak NAS during WWII. On all of his paperwork including his discharge from the marine corps he is listed as a Chief Cook, a CK 1/c etc. Depending on his rank at the time. I would suggest that this marine in question may have served along side the navy at some point during the war or was discharged from a naval base and they deemed his equivalent specialty rating more appropriate than his marine corps rank. I've also seen marine buglers listed on records in a navy rate structure rather than with their marine corps rank. Chief cook was really a USMC enlisted rank in WW2. Until 1946 the mess branch had different titles. Cooks actually did the cooking and Mess Sergeants/Corporals were more administrative/supply. When the war started it was like this: Chief Cook/Mess Sergeant = Sergeant Field Cook/Mess Corporal = Corporal Assistant Cook = PFC In early 1943 there was a reorganization and the Mess Branch became the Commissary Branch. Mess Sergeant was bumped up to Staff Sergeant (Commissary), and Chief Cook also went up a grade. Mess Corporal was eliminated and the rest were bumped up accordingly: Staff Sergeant (Commissary)/Chief Cook = Platoon Sergeant Field Cook = Sergeant Assistant Cook = Corporal Around the same time a Steward Branch was created, which, like the Navy's Steward Branch, was racially segregated and served only officers. Their ranks were: Master Cook/Steward = Master Technical Sergeant Cook/Steward 1st Class = Technical Sergeant Cook/Steward 2nd Class = Staff Sergeant Cook/Steward 3rd Class = Sergeant Steward's Assistant 1st Class = Corporal Steward's Assistant 2nd Class = PFC Steward's Assistant 3rd Class = Private Musicians also had a different system of rank titles. This can all be fairly confusing, it's understandable that the Corps decided to standardize enlisted grades after the war. Justin B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Leonard Posted March 27, 2012 Share #32 Posted March 27, 2012 In my experience a lot of this confusion, as has been noted, stems from typist not knowing or understanding what their seeing/reading. Think of all the folks who are trying to figure out how so and so was a captain in the Navy . . . afterall, his rank was CAP, so he must have been a captain, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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